Author |
Message |
bartt59 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2009 Posts: 31 Location: Directly over the gravitational center of the earth
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:01 pm Post subject: Mystery Bolt @ 5 oclock to the water pump pulley, what it is |
|
|
I have a GEX rebuilt 1.9 engine that has already plagued me with oil leaks at the oil pump plate due to incorrect studs and nuts being used by the GEX rebuilders. I have less than 100 miles on the engine and have discovered a mystery bolt is leaking oil. I want to remove it, apply sealant and reinsert it but am concerned it may be holding something inside the case. Can someone tell me if I'm ok to remove this bolt that sits @ 5 o'clock to the water pump pulley and just aft of the oil filter attachment boss ?
Thanks,
bartt[/img] |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6316 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
bartt59 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2009 Posts: 31 Location: Directly over the gravitational center of the earth
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Not aiming to start a GEX bashing thread. Just needing some insight. I'm dealing with them accordingly. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PocketRocket Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Walla Walla,Washington
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
newbe get had by GEX |
|
Back to top |
|
|
SyncroGhia Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2009 Posts: 2458 Location: Highnam, UK
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If it's still under warrantee, I wouldn't touch anything, just take it back. Otherwise if something serious goes wrong, you may have invalidated the warantee.
MG _________________ T3 Syncro 16 S6 Westfalia Limey SOLD
T3 Syncro 6x6 SOLD
T3 RS6 Bluestar
T3 Tristar Syncro 16 SOLD
T3 Tristar Syncro RHD SOLD |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Alaric.H Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 2529 Location: Sandy Springs GA
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
Post a picture. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
xoo00oox Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2010 Posts: 2672 Location: East Nassau, NY
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
......I think you are looking at a oil galley plug in the engine case. I am looking at a 1.9 here and this one has a press in plug. GEX maybe removed it and put in a screw in plug. Could easily turn into a big job but may be as simple as removing and resealing. If at all possible I would have GEX deal with it, although that could be a big job too.
Andrew- |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bartt59 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2009 Posts: 31 Location: Directly over the gravitational center of the earth
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Apologies for not posting the pic in the first place. What was I thinking ? The mystery bolt is circled red. Thanks for your support and understanding on my being a GEX bonehead. I promise all of you the next engine I need will be built by TenCent or yours truly.
bartt |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PocketRocket Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Walla Walla,Washington
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Its the main oil gallery front to rear all the 2.1s are drilled and tapped for a steel threaded sleeve for the oil sender. You may have one of the 2.1 blocks or they have drilled and tapped it as these do leak with the stock aluminum plugs I use allen plugs in all mine. The 2.1 steel threaded sleeve had a aluminum washer behind it. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PocketRocket Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Walla Walla,Washington
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Does the oil pump cover have a rounded lip on it or is it just a flat pump cover. I never use the flat ones only the factory curved lip ones. as I have seen way to many of the flat ones leak. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bartt59 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2009 Posts: 31 Location: Directly over the gravitational center of the earth
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Flat plate. Have a look at the cheesy, hand cut studs and incorrect nuts. 2 were self locking. 2 were not. None were self sealing thus I had an oil leak before I started it the first time. I had to lower the engine to remove and replace them and found the top right stud and nut were stripped. Got pics of that beauty too.
bartt |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PocketRocket Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Walla Walla,Washington
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Oil seal nuts should have red seal to the pump cover. I would look for a good cover and the 4 red seal nuts. Rocky |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bartt59 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2009 Posts: 31 Location: Directly over the gravitational center of the earth
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Done and understood. GEX didn't understand.
bartt |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10067 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
|
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Wow and look at that weldup on the suction galley end. How'd you miss that, RJ? Jeez, that case's been worked over. _________________ Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PocketRocket Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Walla Walla,Washington
|
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
Once its been welded now it has to be machined so one can pull the plug drill and tap for a threaded plug. Gotta luv those GEX engines. This is what we can see on the outside wonder that we can't SEE on the inside ????? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10067 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
|
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
Yeah you gotta wonder.
Bartt, we can tell which case you have and by that which crank bearing type if you look at the case serial number below the breather tower:
DH is a 1.9 so it has the old-style crank bearings, that would mean your mystery bolt/plug was a mod GEX probably did.
MV is the newer, hugely improved bearing system, and that galley hole would have been already threaded so they just put a plug in it since your van won't need the second oil pressure switch.
In either case you can safely remove the plug you circled in red and reseal it, it's just plugging the galley drilling, not holding anything together. _________________ Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bartt59 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2009 Posts: 31 Location: Directly over the gravitational center of the earth
|
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
TC,
It's an MV style case. Can you elaborate on the benefits of this over the DH ?
Thanks,
bartt |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PocketRocket Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Walla Walla,Washington
|
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
10 cent may be on the road. So I will give you my 9 cents worth. The best part of a MV block is the rear thrust with the two floater thrust shims its light years better than the old bug style thrust brg.used in the DH blocks. All three of the load brgs.1,2,& 3 are steel backed. In all of the Drag Race engines (101.6 bore) I build the MV block is the one I use. On the plug (Red circle) again that should have the factory steel hex insert with copper washer that came in the MV blocks as it is metric thread 16 x 1.5. You mite be able to find a bolt that size but, I would put a 1/8 npt plug in the steel sender hex insert that was in the MV block. Hope this helps. Rocky www.rockyjennings.com |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|