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vanagonjr Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 3431 Location: Dartmouth, Mass.
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I found this thread and have begun to study it. . . it has shaken up many of my preconcieved notions about what T3 maintenance is all about. I will just list some of my observations and questions in random order:
1. I have always thought that the ultimate prudent maintenance duty would be to rebuild the engine, and while Ben strongly suggests just to simply REPLACE THE ENTIRE HEAD, he says just to leave the PISTONS alone (as long as the van is not losing a lot of oil). Interesting because from what I understand, other than the HEAD, an engine rebuild is essentially about replacing the pistons, machining the block, and perhaps doing something about the crank. I have heard it said that one of the most common causes for engine failure is cracked off pieces from the HEAD (pre-chambers?) falling into the cylinders --- so for this reason it seems wise to change an old head. For what other reasons would replacing the head have so much more priority over replacing the pistons?
2. Nice to hear that Ben considers the general suspension to be somewhat indestructable (he didn't say that it would guarantee a SMOOTH RIDE but seemed to hint that the suspension should last for ages..... it is true that in all my long ago years of T2 experience driving all over Hell's half-acre (and not knowing the first thing about maintenance) I never ever had a single issue with suspension or steering. For that matter I never had any issue with transmissions, which brings me to my next point.
3. Nobody so far on this thread has said anything whatsoever about trannies..... can it also be assumed that T3 GEARBOXES are built to last, or at least that they give AMPLE WARNING before quitting?
4. Seems that COOLANT ISSUES are perhaps the NUMBER ONE and most common bummer with T3s, correct?
5. This thread seems exclusively concerned with gas engines - would anyone modify of add to the list for diesels?
6. Ben suggests replacing the entire fuel tank (even it not leaking I presume) if it is original. Because it is the "cause of so many problems" ---- what problems are those, and why is the fuel tank so important? Dirty fuel? Is there not a way to clean the inside?
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ledogboy Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 578 Location: Scappoose, OR / Oakland, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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epowell wrote: |
3. Nobody so far on this thread has said anything whatsoever about trannies..... can it also be assumed that T3 GEARBOXES are built to last, or at least that they give AMPLE WARNING before quitting?
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They may be reasonably reliable (not sure what the benchmark for that would be), but they can definitely quit without ample warning. Check the GW article below:
http://www.gowesty.com/library_article.php?id=117 _________________ 1986 Westy Weekender
Now a full camper
1.8t Syncro conversion
Some people call him Maurice... |
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:10 am Post subject: |
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ledogboy wrote: |
epowell wrote: |
3. Nobody so far on this thread has said anything whatsoever about trannies..... can it also be assumed that T3 GEARBOXES are built to last, or at least that they give AMPLE WARNING before quitting?
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They may be reasonably reliable (not sure what the benchmark for that would be), but they can definitely quit without ample warning. Check the GW article below:
http://www.gowesty.com/library_article.php?id=117 |
oh, wonderful!
I wonder what has happened with my van... most likely much more than 300,000km... 1984... so it must have a new transmission... hopefully they put a newer on in. . . I wonder if a 90 tranny will fit normally into an 84? _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Still I am scratching head over this... This to me sounds like a serious factory defect, and wondering why few others are talking about this... could it be that there is an element of FEAR PORN here to drum up GOWESTY business....?
Anyhow, when thinking about my own van, I guess that this problem was fixed decades ago if it is supposed to show up around 80,000 miles. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9808 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:56 am Post subject: |
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epowell wrote: |
...Still I am scratching head over this... This to me sounds like a serious factory defect, and wondering why few others are talking about this... could it be that there is an element of FEAR PORN here to drum up GOWESTY business....?... |
A very real problem and often mentioned on the Samba. My 'transaxle sudden death' occurred at 180,000 miles on my 84 Westy.
A search of 3-4 slider or similar terms will find examples. |
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
epowell wrote: |
...Still I am scratching head over this... This to me sounds like a serious factory defect, and wondering why few others are talking about this... could it be that there is an element of FEAR PORN here to drum up GOWESTY business....?... |
A very real problem and often mentioned on the Samba. My 'transaxle sudden death' occurred at 180,000 miles on my 84 Westy.
A search of 3-4 slider or similar terms will find examples. |
OK, thanks! I will do that... and that's not nice to hear... however my own 84 surely has more than 180K... and if they are supposed to quit before 100K then mine must have gone long ago....... the question is 'how did they fix it?' With another defective 3-4 slider...? or.....? The PO told me that this tranny will last forever hmmmm....
I never had any troubles with trannies in all of my other older buses... I wonder why tranny quality went down after the T2s?
I will research, thank! _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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JustsomeKentuck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2016 Posts: 69 Location: Louisville KY, y'all!
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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Thanks for the thread. Bookmarked!
But I have a question that I've been searching theSamba.com for and haven't found, or possibly missed...
What coolant should I be using in my 83.5 VanagonL. And what oil, while I'm asking.
My Van arrives next week (first one!) and I need to give her a good once over (as good as I can as a Master Plumber and not a Mechanic) before I put too many miles on her. I'm scared to drive her much at all before I replace the fuel lines, and even though working on your vehicle is not allowed in the parking lot of my apartment complex, I'm figuring I'll do the fuel lines myself. The sooner the better.
But I want to be judicious about my coolant and oil levels until I get to know her engine and I don't have the liquids on hand yet.
Can someone tell me what I need, and also point me in the right direction in regards to threads for a beginner.
Thanks all.
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seabright_sc Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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Coolant- Anything Phosphate free. Many vanagon owners use Sierra.
Oil. Some go synthetic. I, and many others, been running Castrol 20/50.
Enjoy the ride. |
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JustsomeKentuck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2016 Posts: 69 Location: Louisville KY, y'all!
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:54 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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seabright_sc wrote: |
Coolant- Anything Phosphate free. Many vanagon owners use Sierra.
Oil. Some go synthetic. I, and many others, been running Castrol 20/50.
Enjoy the ride. |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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JustsomeKentuck wrote: |
Can someone ... point me in the right direction ... to threads for a beginner... |
FAQ: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=525798
- Dave
PS: Welcome! _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Merian Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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see my sig. for things much more important than what oil to use
after doing those, you can move on to other maint. tasks, including some that you only need to do every 90k miles
then you can begin with the upgrades _________________ .... |
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JustsomeKentuck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2016 Posts: 69 Location: Louisville KY, y'all!
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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Thank you. |
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JustsomeKentuck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2016 Posts: 69 Location: Louisville KY, y'all!
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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Merian wrote: |
see my sig. for things much more important than what oil to use
after doing those, you can move on to other maint. tasks, including some that you only need to do every 90k miles
then you can begin with the upgrades |
And thank you. I am gonna check out the thread but I will add that I have been watching fuel line replacement vids and just ordered the kit from GoWesty and it will arrive shortly after my Vanagon does
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JustsomeKentuck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2016 Posts: 69 Location: Louisville KY, y'all!
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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Merian wrote: |
see my sig. for things much more important than what oil to use
after doing those, you can move on to other maint. tasks, including some that you only need to do every 90k miles
then you can begin with the upgrades |
Would these be the clamps you recommend? As pictured by msinabottle:
The thing is that I ordered the GoWesty replacement kit and I'm not sure what clamps they come with. I didn't get the fuel rails and will soon, but want to be able to take the lines off and replace the short one between the fuel injector and the fuel rail. If I get the PEX crimp fit type, they are not easily removed.
If I knew where locally I would go buy them before changing the lines so that I could more easily replace the fuel rails and the short hose.
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JustsomeKentuck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2016 Posts: 69 Location: Louisville KY, y'all!
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon maintenance (1983-2011) |
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Looks like the GoWesty fuel line replacement kit only comes with two removable hose clamps...
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