| Author |
Message |
Timwhy
Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009
Posts: 4002
Location: Maine
|
 Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject: New Plenum and Intake tubes, cleaned injectors too! |
 |
|
Took out the old Plenum and Intake tubes as well as the original Injectors and replaced them.
The new to me parts came out of a 1991 Vanagon and did they ever look new when compaired
to the original. The Plenum was pretty difficult to get out, 'cause I didn't have the correct
tool for the job. I couldn't get any of my sockets on the 17mm nut behind the Throtle Body.
I thought that a open or a box wrench would do the trick but no! Had to go and buy a 17mm
offset wrench to clear the Plenum once the TB was removed. The nut on the rear of the Plenum
is a 13mm and that was very easy to get too. I had read but not followed someones post about
what a PITA changing the Plenum is. I should have taken the advice as I will be taking it apart
tomorrow to correct one fault. The poster stated that you should work your way from left
to right and connect the left side intake first then the right. Ifirst bolted down the Plenum, then
the right and then left side intakes. One of the left side intake tubes' hose is not making a
good enough connection to the Plenum and causing a Vacuum leak. So I will take it apart
tomorrow and fix what I started. Some FYI's bolts to the intake tubes to the heads 13mm, injector
clamp bolt 10mm, bleeder screw for the fuel system 7mm.
Old Plenum
New Plenum
Clean Injectors
_________________
'15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=Timwhy&show_results=summary
http://www.youtube.com/user/TIMWHY2?feature=mhee |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
insyncro
Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002
Posts: 15086
Location: New York
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Nice job.
I highly recommend replacing the plenum connector sleeves with silicone hose.
Kits are available in the classifieds or just buy bare pieces off eBay and get your own clamps.
Opps, I forgot to paint the fuel pressure regulator.
Shame on me.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tencentlife
Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006
Posts: 10075
Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
<channeling Ben; love ya buddy!>:
Yeah tell me about it men! You'll never know!!
This place needed a little prettying-up.
You can get 2' lengths of 2" ID (Proper size is 1 1/2” ) silicone tube at: http://www.siliconeintakes.com/index.php?cPath=6&osCsid=468d65bd1b6f26814f30a4545ab9c264
Use a fresh razor knife blade clamped to a table edge, and a block 2.25" as a stop to make clean straight cuts and make your own runner couplers.
The 2" (1 1/2” ) tube will seal nicely on the 2.1 runners making clamps optional, the 1.9 runners are slightly smaller so clamps are needed. #24 stainless clamps can be found at the home supply stores.
_________________
Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
insyncro
Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002
Posts: 15086
Location: New York
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Damn, dos sur r purty.
Where'd u lurn t'do dat.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tencentlife
Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006
Posts: 10075
Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The Rattlecan School.
<ba-dump-bump!>
Shameless, I know...
_________________
Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
xoo00oox
Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2010
Posts: 2672
Location: East Nassau, NY
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'll play too...
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tencentlife
Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006
Posts: 10075
Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Eeee, purty. Even matched the wire ties to the intake color. I am humbled.
OK, extra points: did you all clean the inside of the runners as well as you did the outside? There's some awful heavy crud in a lot of them.
_________________
Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
70coupyel
Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006
Posts: 1657
Location: So.Cal
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Does that yellow make it go faster like painting your front brake calipers red?  
_________________
| TheAndante wrote: |
| Saying that specs are different than dimensions doesn't make sense. Porsche specs/VW specs/engineering specs are nothing but a series of dimensions,sizes,percentages,measurements, etc. |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=338946&highlight=
70 KG Coup
83 Westy Waterboxer |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
xoo00oox
Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2010
Posts: 2672
Location: East Nassau, NY
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Who cares if the inside is clean, if it's shiny it's good right? The yellow makes the car just as fast as lighted windshield washers. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tencentlife
Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006
Posts: 10075
Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
|
| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Lighted windshield washers? Where do I buy those? C'mon, you're holding out on us!
_________________
Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bjrogers86auto
Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2009
Posts: 1375
Location: Halifax, N.S.
|
| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:24 am Post subject: engines |
|
|
Whats all that shiny silver stuff?
In the real world they look like this! Do you guys USE the engines or are they just for display? hehe. JK. You guys are killing me....
Brian.
_________________
86 Vanagon GL Westfalia 2.1
18 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X
19 Honda Civic Hatchback
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day. Calvin and Hobbes. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Timwhy
Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009
Posts: 4002
Location: Maine
|
| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
|
|
Why do it once correctly when you can do it three times! Took everything apart again this morning.
Then put it back together again but same if not worse result (vacuum leak) So, I got to take
it all apart again. Third times a charm I guess, it seems to be running fine!
Really like all the engine BLING you guys have shown-off! Don't think that my poor old Westy
power plant will ever look as good but that's ok.
Lesson learned is the the Plenum needs to be tightened LAST (well for mine anyways) so that
the Intake Tubes can be positioned and then tightened down. Otherwise they just may not
align correctly?
_________________
'15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=Timwhy&show_results=summary
http://www.youtube.com/user/TIMWHY2?feature=mhee |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
schoonerman
Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2008
Posts: 244
Location: vancouver
|
| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The only thing that can get my heart beating faster than 10c and xooOOoox engines are Playboy centerfolds 
_________________
87 Westy/Vanagon |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sbinkley
Samba Member
Joined: March 29, 2006
Posts: 23
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
So, my wife jokes about my looking at van porn...those motor pics seem to fit that description quite nicely. Beautiful work gentlemen.
_________________
Santa Fe, NM
87 Vanagon Wolfsburg GL, daily driver |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
funagon
Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2006
Posts: 1308
Location: SLC, UT
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If there's a reason to pull the engine I always clean and paint its bits. But it's just basic black for me:
_________________
1990 GL 7-passenger
2.2 liter WBX |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
indytriple
Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009
Posts: 710
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I never thought I'd see the day where I would be correcting Chris on the message board, but it seems that the 2.1 runners actually require 1.625" (or 1 5/8") ID silicone hose. I bought a 2' length of 2" silicone hose from the link above, and the diameter is way too big. Got out the 'ol calipers on the runners, and they seem to be a perfect fit for the 1.625" hose that they offer. Just wanted to put it out there in case anyone else embarks on this project. I'm taking suggestions on what to do with the 2' of 2" silicone hose. Points given for creativity.
_________________
"See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
www.bluegrassbicyclecompany.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
IdahoDoug
Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010
Posts: 10248
Location: N. Idaho
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm not submitting mine until you reveal what color silicone you have, as this thread has a serious style angle I want to capitalize on for the winning entry.
DougM
_________________
1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
indytriple
Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009
Posts: 710
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It's funny that you mention the color. I'm actually kind of glad that it doesn't fit. It's this ugly, pale red color that just doesn't jive with the dingy, rusty, utilitarian vibe I've got going in my engine bay. I think I'll go with basic black for the next order.
_________________
"See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
www.bluegrassbicyclecompany.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tencentlife
Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006
Posts: 10075
Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| indytriple wrote: |
I never thought I'd see the day where I would be correcting Chris on the message board, but it seems that the 2.1 runners actually require 1.625" (or 1 5/8") ID silicone hose. I bought a 2' length of 2" silicone hose from the link above, and the diameter is way too big. Got out the 'ol calipers on the runners, and they seem to be a perfect fit for the 1.625" hose that they offer. Just wanted to put it out there in case anyone else embarks on this project. I'm taking suggestions on what to do with the 2' of 2" silicone hose. Points given for creativity. |
Sorry, that was a careless mistype on my part.
But the size I prefer is 1.5" ID, that seals very tightly around the flared ends of the 2.1 runners. 1.625" ID would slip on easily but require clamps on 2.1 runners.
The 1.9 runners have straight ends and are slightly smaller OD than the 2.1's so 1.5" ID tubing slips on easily and fits close but requires clamps to assure a good air seal; on 2.1 runners clamps are optional with 1.5" ID tubing because the fit is very tight. I doubt one could fit 1.375" ID tubing on the 1.9 runners.
I like to stock one size to cover both applications.
I know you're feeling the same thing I'm thinking, though:" shoulda got out the calipers before I ordered anything". We all make mistakes, however well-intentioned we might be. Hope you can find some use for that 2" tubing.
_________________
Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Nuthin2It 
Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2011
Posts: 306
Location: Marietta, GA
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
