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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 66 Ghia dash molding Reply with quote

I will be running more in 2 or 3 months
Delay due to new job .
And they suck to machine
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 66 Ghia dash molding Reply with quote

anyone have a set or a 3D cad model so I can print up a set?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an original set with out the radio bezel. The glove box piece is cracked.
I want to sell the set what is a fair price to ask including the glove box door?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sputnick60 wrote:
I have been exploring the option of 3D printing these in metalised simulated ABS .


There have been a great many advances in the field of "rapid prototyping" lately and these processes (3D printing, high-definition stereolithography, rapid urethane casting, etc.) may be just the ticket to fill the need for low volume, high-quality plastic parts like these trim pieces. Parts can be made directly from 3D CAD models...no drawings required. A set of OEM trim pieces would need to be measured and then modeled in SolidWorks, ProEngineer or similar CAD system. These models can then be used to produce exact copies of the desired part. And unlike traditional molding, there's no tooling cost involved and it's not a problem to do only a small run of parts.

RPDG, Inc. is one company that specializes in this sort of thing. They'll even provide completely finished parts (painted, metalized, etc.) if you so desire.

http://www.rpdg.com/prototyping

A quote from their website:

"With a diverse range of rapid prototyping technologies and materials at our disposal, we can choose the best materials and process for your pre-production prototype or low-volume production parts and create precision, full-scale 3D models of virtually any shape, with the precision fit, finish, strength and material properties your application requires."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sent them e-mail. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disc wrote:
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The dash trim sets are finished...these are the 6 piece sets the use the radio plate. House of ghia has them .john


Can't find them in HOG page, can anyone point me. Thanks!


You won't find them listed in their online shop...you can also email: [email protected] or [email protected]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thank you!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

15039992215.. call mike and ask him about that and if he has any billet knobs...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The dash trim sets are finished...these are the 6 piece sets the use the radio plate. House of ghia has them .john


Can't find them in HOG page, can anyone point me. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dash trim sets are finished...these are the 6 piece sets the use the radio plate. House of Ghia has them .john
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I decided to try to make the piece between the gauges. I don’t have an original to make a mould, so I decide to make a piece from leftovers from my first test and using pictures here to try to guess the right size and shape. I also don’t have access to the Ghia dash right now, so this is totally “With Guesswork”. Apologies once again for the terrible cell pics.

Looking at the picture in this thread showing the backside of all the trim pieces, I measured the size on screen, averaged top and bottom to allow for the tilt, and came up with 20mm wide x 30mm long, scaled that up using the trim piece I had, it worked out to 33 x 49mm, but I may be off a bit (if someone has some of these handy, I’d much appreciate some exact lengths).

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Anyway, I took my best guess at the curve, I’ll find out if I was close when i can get out to the ghia again.

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Shaped most of it using some 150 emery paper taped to the radius of a roll of duct tape, then smoothed it out with 600. masking tape roll gave me consistant height for bevel on both ends.

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Painted it with silver spray, taped the centre then sprayed the edges “chrome” (didn’t really need to paint this one though)

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So, if this one is accurate, I’ll fit some pegs to the back and use it to once again make a mould, then I can cast this one as well...
2 down… Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, and Snicker Snicker... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I made my first attempt at casting a piece of dash trim in urathane from an original piece. It’s not bad for a first attempt, but I learned a lot, so I think the next one will be better. It really wasn't that hard to do. Sorry for the crappy cell pics.
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I bought a 66 glovebox door from a Samba member, it had a piece of og dash trim still attached, but it was very fragile and had a few pieces missing from it.
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I patched up the missing bits using playdoh, and made a two part cast of it from plaster, which is not the way to go, I’ve got some more appropriate material that I’ll use for the next one.

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I put in some stainless screws at the last minute. ..not sure if this is the way to go yet.
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Cool that it’s an exact copy, even some of the detail from the og like this number transferred (hard to see in the og).

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Painted it up with silver spray , then taped the center and sprayed again with “chrome” spray. As I said, not perfect yet, but not bad for a first time.

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I think I’ll cut this piece up, and try to make the other four pieces using photos from here, I can trial fit them to my dash.
Once I’ve got the mould made I’ll be able to make a bunch of these.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Copello has just announced a new batch of his billet 66 Dash trim... for order through Mike at House of Ghia

John's post: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5809350#5809350
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think John was referencing how the chinese who have those ridiculous volume quotas and don't accept piece work. At least that's how I interpret Johns words
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I thought it was a pretty good idea. They were originally plastic after all, and I have seen plastic parts made from silicone moulds.
Advantage of using moulds rather than milling them, is you get an exact copy of the original part, and i'd say it would be cheaper and probably easier to do.
Just sayin’ it is worth a shot… you know being inventive and improvising, much like the original owners of our cars used to do… Smile nothing wrong with that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

copellos wrote:
..... idiots


Nobody else is asking, so I will, who you calling "idiots"?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

copellos wrote:
snicker snicker.


Totally agree. it ain't an easy thing to do.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike and me have dicussing another run of the dash trim sets...go to the hog site and encourage him to get his butt moving..unless that whole silicone thing worked..snicker snicker. O and china called said fine to make but u have to make 399 thousand sets .for all 8 of the orders mikes gona get..... idiots
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bob,
I have a full set LHD but I'm in Australia and my car is RHD. I'm not ready to sell my set just yet. I have extra pieces purchased over the years from adverts in the samba that I might need for this reproduction experiment.

Thanks for offering that mould solution. It looks interesting. On a similar vein, I've seen home injection moulding set ups that could achieve the desired result. I'm going to explore those and other options because the cost needs to come down as evidenced by the underwhelming number of people who have stepped up with interest and money so far.

I have a set of Mr Copello's billet trim that I can use on my car but I should focus on finishing the car and later do research on small volume plastic reproductions and in time replace the aluminium with something more authentic in appearance.

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