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Bug Owner Again
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 Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:49 pm Post subject: PO De-Chromed & Holes exposed to rain for 2 years |
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The Po has taken off some of the chrome and left the holes open,He said the Beetle sat in the field for two years. Do you think that my Beetle will rust from the inside do to rain/moisture? If so how do I remove the moisture to be sure to stop the rusting. Should I spray some kind of rust corrosion inhibitor in the holes before I weld them shut?
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jlex
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Just what part of the car are you talking about? Got any pix?
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banditwolf
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Chrome trim? With the plastic clip holes exposed?
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The chrome trim holes aren't the only way to the inside of the sheet metal. Weld them up it'll be fine.
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I am removing the chrome trim off of mine, takes hardly any effort to weld up those holes and grind it smooth. Looks good when you finish
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Bug Owner Again
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I will have to get pics tomorrow,yes the trim (plastic strips below the windows) is removed and most of the plastic clips are no longer there which exposing the holes to rain. I helped a friend of mine years ago to weld them closed and it turned out really nice. |
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Bug Owner Again
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Here is the pics of the holes I was talking about,I am not sure what the top set of holes were for,but they are on both sides of the beetle.
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Bug Owner Again
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| Just what part of the car are you talking about? Got any pix? |
Below the rear quarter window the trim has been removed as well. But I have no idea why these second set of holes are above the trim. Do you have any idea? |
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jlex
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Nope... maybe some after-market trim was installed after the original was removed; PO may have had plans to fill in the original holes, but lost interest.
Welding seems a bit drastic, although I'm sure it's more permanent & effective to seal the holes vs filler.
If you weld, weld first then remove the interior panels afterwards to kill rust & waterproof.
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Bug Owner Again
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Nope... maybe some after-market trim was installed after the original was removed; PO may have had plans to fill in the original holes, but lost interest.
Welding seems a bit drastic, although I'm sure it's more permanent & effective to seal the holes vs filler.
If you weld, weld first then remove the interior panels afterwards to kill rust & waterproof. |
ok thx for the tip on removing interior panels  I would rather weld it so that I dont have to worry later down the road when I paint it. And it wont take long at all to weld up a couple of holes
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jlex
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If you're going to weld, take the interior panels off first... should be able to get quick access to that door interior if during welding something tries to burn...
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| Bug Owner Again wrote: |
| jlex wrote: |
| Just what part of the car are you talking about? Got any pix? |
Below the rear quarter window the trim has been removed as well. But I have no idea why these second set of holes are above the trim. Do you have any idea? |
Perhaps the doors were changed and the replacement doors original trim holes didn't match the car?
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Bug Owner Again
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| Bug Owner Again wrote: |
| jlex wrote: |
| Just what part of the car are you talking about? Got any pix? |
Below the rear quarter window the trim has been removed as well. But I have no idea why these second set of holes are above the trim. Do you have any idea? |
Perhaps the doors were changed and the replacement doors original trim holes didn't match the car? |
I think you are right!! I didn't think of that Duhh I was thinking that someone probably added something at one time but what was throwing me off was that the holes are exactly the same width apart on both sides. Thx it makes since now  lol |
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jlex
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Yeah, when you pop the panels off, see if there's a color difference between the doors and the body...
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71 and later beetles have the chrome strips mounted half an inch higher than 68-70 bugs
People dont realize that when they swap doors which is why this happens.
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Bug Owner Again
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| jlex wrote: |
| Yeah, when you pop the panels off, see if there's a color difference between the doors and the body... |
I have been out all day and didn't take the panels off yet but There has been four coats of paint on this Beetle in the past lol Thats why I decided to take her down to bare metal so when I do get it painted i wont have to worry about it cracking |
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| Joel wrote: |
71 and later beetles have the chrome strips mounted half an inch higher than 68-70 bugs
People dont realize that when they swap doors which is why this happens. |
 I have 68-69 doors on my 72 super, and the trim lined up perfect.. maybe that just with some models?
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Change definately happened here in end of 70 when supers started but it may have been other times in different countries.
Although I just went for a cruise through the gallery looking for some good examples and all the 68-70 US bugs I came across had the lower strips too
Anyway these show the difference reasonably well if you enlarge the pics.
68 beetle: notice the gap between the body crease and the chrome strip is about 1"
I couldn'd find a good side profile of a 71 super or standard but you can see it on this 74 standard
the same gap is less than 1/2"
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| Joel wrote: |
Change definately happened here in end of 70 when supers started but it may have been other times in different countries.
Although I just went for a cruise through the gallery looking for some good examples and all the 68-70 US bugs I came across had the lower strips too
Anyway these show the difference reasonably well if you enlarge the pics.
68 beetle: notice the gap between the body crease and the chrome strip is about 1"
I couldn'd find a good side profile of a 71 super or standard but you can see it on this 74 standard
the same gap is less than 1/2"
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yep, if you look at the trim in relation to the hinge, you can see it in the pics. I was not douting you on the change, just the fact that it was all the bugs  when I got my 72 the bottom of the doors were rusted out, when I replace them i used 68-69 (i think 70 was the same to)doors because thy have the smaller teardrop shaped indents behind the door handles. and the trim all lined up perfect. thy did so many different things in different countries, its nuts!
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oh ya, PS, and all that good stuff, lol I for got I was going to say, It would have been nice to have the higher trim when I painted my car, the line between the two town wouldn't hit on the hinge, it would go right above it 
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