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dredward
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| no--they were open--we both ducked backwards-- you don't forget stuff like that. |
Thats nuts!
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Captain Pike
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| Actually, "dooshe" is misspelled too. Just sayin. |
Too funny  |
All ripped from your posts.
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dredward
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Pike wrote: |
| dredward wrote: |
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| Actually, "dooshe" is misspelled too. Just sayin. |
Too funny |
All ripped from your posts. |
Still too funny. I gives a rats ass if i make spelling errors. Content is what counts in my book. As mentioned earlier if all you can dig at me with is spelling errors i am doin fine in my book...... 
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randywebb
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I have a lot of experience with air cooled 911 motors, and you guys need to make a distinction between the ones with Mg cases (2.7L) and the later Al cased ones (3L and 3.2L).
The 2.7L Mg cased motors get stressed and can need a lot of expensive machine work (align bore the case, etc.).
The 3.0L motor uses CIS, no electronic brain and is an easy(ier) swap than the later 3.2L which uses Bosch DME. The 3.2L is cleaner, gets better gas mileage, and makes more hp and torque.
The CIS motors can feel more low rpm friendly in some ways, but all are designed for sports cars not trucks, and tend to that usage re the torque curve.
All are good for air cooled Buses & Vanagons. I would use a water cooled motor in a water-cooled van...
They all (until the 1990s) have solid lifters, so you need to set those about ever 10,000 miles -- it is an easy job in a 911.
The 3L and 3.2L motors routinely run for 200, 300, even 400,000 miles with no major overhauls needed.
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xoo00oox
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| ....Can anyone read this whole thread with a staight face. Between thummmper's story and the aguing I was rolling on the floor. |
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BlackDogVan
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I didn't know you can put a 1.8T in a vanagon. How do they fit? Are they emissions legal? Is anyone making a kit? Can you get around 200hp out of one?
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dredward
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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All are good for air cooled Buses & Vanagons. I would use a water cooled motor in a water-cooled van...
They all (until the 1990s) have solid lifters, so you need to set those about ever 10,000 miles -- it is an easy job in a 911.
The 3L and 3.2L motors routinely run for 200, 300, even 400,000 miles with no major overhauls needed. |
I agree. The nxt hurdle would be finding one for a good price.....
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dredward
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| ....Can anyone read this whole thread with a staight face. Between thummmper's story and the aguing I was rolling on the floor. |
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dredward
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| I didn't know you can put a 1.8T in a vanagon. How do they fit? Are they emissions legal? Is anyone making a kit? Can you get around 200hp out of one? |
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Zeitgeist 13
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I hear the 1.8t is an excellent candidate for the 80 degree install, but you have to upgrade your fuses, or they'll burn the pistons.
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dredward
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| I hear the 1.8t is an excellent candidate for the 80 degree install, but you have to upgrade your fuses, or they'll burn the pistons. |
Oh shut it down folks . Yep i am VERY stoked i went this route. Before going i researched every option and feel i came up with the best one. What ever choice you make i hope you feel the same way or it wasn't worth it
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Captain Pike
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| I hear the 1.8t is an excellent candidate for the 80 degree install, but you have to upgrade your fuses, or they'll burn the pistons. |
Oh shut it down folks . Yep i am VERY stoked i went this route. Before going i researched every option and feel i came up with the best one. What ever choice you make i hope you feel the same way or it wasn't worth it |
I tossed the bait out, you grabbed it,sorry I went fishing.
Your conversion is a rockin' install, I was bustin' yer balls.
Makes for fun banter tho'.
Enjoy, Bill
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dredward
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| I hear the 1.8t is an excellent candidate for the 80 degree install, but you have to upgrade your fuses, or they'll burn the pistons. |
Oh shut it down folks . Yep i am VERY stoked i went this route. Before going i researched every option and feel i came up with the best one. What ever choice you make i hope you feel the same way or it wasn't worth it |
I tossed the bait out, you grabbed it,sorry I went fishing.
Your conversion is a rockin' install, I was bustin' yer balls.
Makes for fun banter tho'.
Enjoy, Bill |
I feel the same patna  . I try not to take anything to personal on the net my friend. Have a good en. 
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onemat
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Hello,
I am very late to this party, but I am currently considering this Vanagon with a Porsche motor. Does anyone know what this motor really is? It's not a 917 as stated and the listing also says 912
Can anyone ID it from the picture? I'm worried that its a Frankenmotor and may give me a lot of trouble.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1340849 |
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Zeitgeist 13
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It looks like a standard 2.0L aircooled engine offered in the early T3. I believe the only 912 engine that would be remotely similar is the one offered in the mid'70's 912E. I believe that used a different breather setup, which is why I think this is just a regular T3 engine. There would be no advantage to using a 912E engine anyway
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onemat
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Thank You Casey,
I am a novice so please forgive me. That motor looks like it's a fuelie and not carborated, is that correct? Horsepowerwise is it pretty close to what was in there originally?
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joseph928
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 Looks like a VW engine. A lot of people like to throw around the word Porsche to impress people into buying there stuff! Go with it the 80-83 VW and early Porsche will all work the same!
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Zeitgeist 13
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Thank You Casey,
I am a novice so please forgive me. That motor looks like it's a fuelie and not carborated, is that correct? Horsepowerwise is it pretty close to what was in there originally?
Thanks,
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Yes, I think all the Type IV engines (like in that van) were fuel injected from around '74(?). I believe the E in 912E stands for Einspritzer, which is German for fuel injection. I think all the 2.0L Type IV engines produced roughly the same amount of power. Mind you, while I've owned and built quite a few of these engines, that was a long time ago, so my trivia info is best taken with a grain of salt.
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Randy in Maine
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The 912E was a 1976 only vehicle here in the states and used a 2.0L Type 4 engine with about 90 HP at about 5000 RPMs (not ideal for a bus). THe engine basically came out of a 914-4 and I think used the flat topped pistons for more compression vs the dished pistons for a bus to keep engine CHTs temps down). Compression was only 7.6:1 though and could run on regular gas. I think it also used the Jetronic FI system vs the L-tronic that a bus uses.
I don't know what the engine code was in a 912E.
Stock engine for a 2.0L vanagon was about 67 HP. |
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