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Alaska-Mike Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2013 Posts: 80 Location: Alaska
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:55 am Post subject: |
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My personal definition of stealth camping is anywhere that road noise and generator whine can not be heard.
Nothing irritates me more than hearing some one running a generator in a campground. Anything louder than the hiss of a two burner Coleman has me reaching for the side cutting pliers. LOL _________________ 1983 Vanagon 1.9L GL - destined to become a dry camper
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desertrefugee Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2013 Posts: 476 Location: Phoenix, AZ. USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Alaska-Mike wrote: |
Nothing irritates me more than hearing some one running a generator in a campground. Anything louder than the hiss of a two burner Coleman has me reaching for the side cutting pliers. LOL |
Oh man, I heard that. One of my back country buddies occasionally brings a little Honda for a couple of unnecessary BS things. I have almost broken him of the habit. Heck, it's not just the noise, but the smell!
Certainly, there's nothing stealthy about a generator. _________________ - 83.5 Westfalia - 2.2 GoWesty "power"
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Alex Proulx Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2010 Posts: 294 Location: Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Camping for us is a familly vacation thing, wifey and a couple of kids. So stealth is out of the question. Got to have facilities, lots of room to play, fire place for smors, etc. The "stay" is half the fun, on road trips we try not to drive more than 2-3h per day.
We like to social aspect of it and the obvious change from "normal" life. We usually look for campgrounds with a nice view, waterfront is always nice.
Parking lots or dark corners would NOT do it.
If I was living in the van by myself on a tight budget things would be different but until THEN it will be campgrounds.
Alex _________________ Vanagon GL 1988 Full Camper, 4 speed manual, 2.1 stock engine
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liwesty Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2009 Posts: 93 Location: ronkonkoma ny
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:21 pm Post subject: camp |
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I"ve tried to suggest the stealth camping, traveling vacation thing to my wife.
its a no go. I guess I am lucky I have a wife that enjoys a vacation sleeping in the back of a truck! _________________ 86 westy 2.5 subaru powered |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Alaska-Mike wrote: |
Nothing irritates me more than hearing some one running a generator in a campground... |
How else you gonna make your toast...???
This has only happened to us once - turned out to be a guy I knew from our
maintenance dept. Luckily it was his first morning and our last...
Close to home: quiet, secluded USFS sites are as close as we get to stealth.
Not a lot of logging roads not already developed with campgrounds... (Superior NF)
We don't have a lot of practice with dispersed camping, but we'll try it when
on the road & farther west. On family road trips we've used a lot of USFS &
cheap city parks. Most of the time we reserve ahead of time; prefer the
USFS for that. As we work towards 2 adults with no kids, we'll try more &
more dispersed/stealth camping. With two kids along, it's been a matter of
planning/convenience/safety for us. _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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18Vanagonfan Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2013 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I don't mind camping at a camp grounds as long as its not a pavement lot. Alaska has great state camp grounds that truly made you feel like you were in the middle of no where with no one else there. I'm currently set up in the westy in an Army camp ground. All the fifth wheels an rvs are in one area paying $20 a night . I'm in the dry camping area by myself paying $6 a night. Lol. However, I do have to leave the camp sight every few weeks (per regs) and I find I can't find a whole lot of places to vanish to here in savannah or Charleston. Both are heavily populated along the coast and have "no parking" or "no camping" signs everywhere. So most nights ill just stay at Wally World. It's free and I got all the things I need right there. _________________ '82 Westfalia
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oldhuldy67 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2008 Posts: 506 Location: somewhere with a southern exposure
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hey..where is that Army campground? I go to SC every summer in July for 2 weeks with extended family..we go to Litchfield, rent some houses..lots of folks. Pass through Charleston on the way...did you get your Bentley and crossover tube? |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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of stealth camping is anywhere that generator whine can not be heard.. LOL |
This is Glamping, not camping. Those people need their own planet.
Wait. Did I say that? _________________ Peace, Regis |
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18Vanagonfan Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2013 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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oldhuldy67 wrote: |
Hey..where is that Army campground? I go to SC every summer in July for 2 weeks with extended family..we go to Litchfield, rent some houses..lots of folks. Pass through Charleston on the way...did you get your Bentley and crossover tube? |
Not yet, but I haven't been on post today or yesterday. The fort stewart camp ground is just outside the ft Stewart base, north of hinesville . It's $6 a night to dry camp. Two weeks max but camp ground host will work with you. Beautiful camp. Next to big lake and great showers and wifi. Makes it great for two weeks at a time. I don't know for sure but someone told me you didn't need to be military to stay there. Also great one at hunter army airfield in down town savannah but no showers. _________________ '82 Westfalia
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CessnaJon Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2008 Posts: 677 Location: Senoia,GA
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've had it with camping near other people.Last weekend, my wife and kids stayed at Amicalola Falls State park here near Atlanta. Other campers were up all night slamming car doors, chopping wood, yelling, etc...no sleep for dad. It baffles me why these huge state parks put 30 campsites on top of each other. [/quote] _________________ 1973 Westy (shared birthday)
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tam_shops Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2012 Posts: 1530 Location: Vancouver BC
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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If Stealth includes Boon docking, that's my vote! Most camp grounds are just too noisy. I do find the WA parks better, then the Provincial Parks, but most of the private places have been way more expensive and crammed in like sardines!
Sadly I have no idea where either place is, but know they're in BC somewhere. One was on a lake, off some logging roads down a steep hill (Syncro needed) w/ almost no one around. Totally Free. Outhouses there.
Next, was on a river. Again Outhouses. I never remember anyone being around. Just again, what I think was logging road (not paved).
Both had swimming, quiet and so much fun! I went w/ my parents, but they're both gone and I wasn't into camping until I had my own kids. So sad...
People are just too rude and noisy and inconsiderate! I am totally anti electronics for camping, but there is a time and place. If my kids wake up at 6:30am they're getting a tablet thrown at them before being told to ZIP it. YET, countless times this summer, the jerks that kept us up at 11pm w/ their screaming and noise, are the same ones to then wake my kids up at 7am. Then, *I* have to deal w/ my cranky 4yo all day and they probably complain about the fact that he cries too much!
I *love* the social aspect, but need a little extra space around us for the quiet!
tam _________________ 1987 Vanagon Westfalia GL Automatic
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jackbombay Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2007 Posts: 2723 Location: Eastern Idaho
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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I rarely stay in campgrounds, and I rarely stealth camp, but I do a LOT of dispersed camping in national forest land and BLM land, there is so much open space out west that its pretty easy to travel without having to pay for camping or sleeping in my van where it is illegal to do so, ie "stealth camping". Sure, I'll occasionally get a night of stealth sleep where I'm not supposed to be parked/camping, but thankfully that is pretty rare for me... _________________
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aswah Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2007 Posts: 907 Location: PDX
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:31 am Post subject: for me... |
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I started using the term stealth camping when hiking the Appalachian Trial in 2000 and I avoided the shelter/hut areas like the plague... stealth camping was anywhere except those spots. Who cares on terminology, I call stealth camping anywhere that is not an official campground or a parking lot. _________________ WIT WA DA DA (Peace and Unity)
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jackbombay Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2007 Posts: 2723 Location: Eastern Idaho
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: |
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If you are dispersed camping in a van on national forest land and it is legal, I don't see how the term "stealth" applies as there is no reason to hide your presence.
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Stealth: The act of moving, proceeding, or acting in a covert way. |
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vanagonjr Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 3431 Location: Dartmouth, Mass.
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:43 am Post subject: |
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I've always thought of stealth camping basically where it is forbidden, or at least not clearly allowable ..kind of the same as the way Wiki defines it.
stealth camping (uncountable)
(US) Camping out of sight on land not designated as a campsite, especially on land not used for habitation, agriculture etc.
(No I did not write the defintion ) _________________ John - 86 Wolfsburg Westfalia "Weekender"
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singler3360 Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 1191 Location: Corvallis, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: |
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We define stealth camping as 'in late/out early' and keep a low profile. Occasionally we'll stealth camp in a hotel parking lot on the way home from a week of dispersed camping on FS/BLM land. Dispersed camping gets our vote over campgrounds. |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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no stealth camping for us anyways. as I travel with a family and at times multiple VW campers.. we tend to pay for our stays..
but if I were to try to travel on the cheap.
I'd drive/travel at night and stop at state/federal parks in the day on a day use access pass.
they don't care if you sleep in your van during the day for the $7/day use. _________________
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aswah Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2007 Posts: 907 Location: PDX
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Look, I really am happy people prefer campgrounds because it keeps where I go less traveled. FOR ME: it's not about travelling on the cheap it is about not wanting to be in a campground which generally suck (too much noise, drunk rowdy people, lack of privacy), very few exceptions. STEALTH IS ABOUT No neighbors, better views, remote spots... Campgrounds tend to be too closely packed (if you can see your neighbor than it is too close to me)... I like to go somewhere where I can let my dog run free and my three year old and not worry about whether they are going to get run over. Campgrounds are generally dirtier and more abused than stealth spots, Stealth campers tend to be a bit more conscious about pack it in/pack it out than the bulk of campground campers. Obviously not all but most. For me, camping is about solitude, star gazing, photography, reading, playing with my family, drinking wine with me wife, getting caught in snowstorms and wondering when I should pack up and head down the mountain. I get all the noise and commotion I need in my lifetime being a Chef. I prefer crapping in the woods than vault/pit toilets... I lived in Mendocino for a while in a primitive cabin in the woods with a pit toilet... no problem there just prefer a clear view of the world and the fresh scent of pine. Call what I do stealth lite or solitude camping, labels are way over rated. The best campgrounds I have been in have been near abandoned ones in Oregon and Alaska. Peace and Love to all. Some of my favorite secluded spots include:
out in Glen Canyon: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5500841961/in/set-72157626079744869
Valley of the Gods: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5532465144/in/set-72157626056103485
Mohave National Preserve: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5517948108/in/set-72157626244497244
somewhere in the Sierras: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/4957882733/in/set-72157624755182493
off highway one right before it heads into the mountains north of Mendo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5416340476/in/set-72157625850225479
near Stratton Mountain in Vermont: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5415708241/in/set-72157625850225479
Mendocino National Forest: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5415682389/in/set-72157625850225479
another Highway ONe hotspot north of Mendo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5416291532/in/set-72157625850225479
Mule Team Road, Cali: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5415648437/in/set-72157625850225479
eating off Highway One south of Mendo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5416289026/in/set-72157625850225479
Champagne and just caught Alaskan King Salmon somewhere in the Bush: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aswah/5416290010/in/set-72157625850225479 _________________ WIT WA DA DA (Peace and Unity)
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ Game over - Aswah wins.
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Joined: May 30, 2012 Posts: 2109 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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