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Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you guys are worried about fumes entering the bus... there should be no fumes coming from the tank


Accidents happen.


people also happen, ignore the cut in the tank, this bay tank had 5 screw holes in it, from a PO who fitted a home made interior, i guess they only had looooong screws

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This picture reminds me of one of my local acquaintances, who installed a second-hand campervan interior into his 1973~79 VW "1700" Type 2 Kombi.

Either through ignorance or stupidity, he ended up drilling five holes in his fuel tank which resulted in a smell of petrol, of which he could not isolate the source, until I starting interrogating him.

Ultimately I supplied him with a second-hand 1974 VW 1800 Type 2 fuel tank I had spare, and took his perforated fuel tank in part exchange, which I later had repair-welded by another of my acquaintances, who many years earlier had repair-welded my corrosion-damaged Triumph Toledo (an amazing car, not sold in North America!) fuel tank.


Best post in this thread by far....

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

A PO of my bus had cut a small rectangular access plate and then sloppily seam sealed the cut out piece back in place. Unfortunately, his hole was off center by a few inches. Several years ago, I enlarged the hole he had made and put in a 6 inch marine bilge pump screw-in access cover. Lots of room to manoeuvre in there now. Now that I think of it, I don't think I've ever had to open it up for any reason since I put it in 9 years ago.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

For anyone looking for that door, Beckson is one of the big manufacturers of these. You can get them round square locking latching...etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

dwill49965 wrote:
A PO of my bus had cut a small rectangular access plate and then sloppily seam sealed the cut out piece back in place. Unfortunately, his hole was off center by a few inches. Several years ago, I enlarged the hole he had made and put in a 6 inch marine bilge pump screw-in access cover. Lots of room to manoeuvre in there now. Now that I think of it, I don't think I've ever had to open it up for any reason since I put it in 9 years ago.

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What type of saw did you use to make that cut? Any risks of sparks flying?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

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What type of saw did you use to make that cut? Any risks of sparks flying?

I just used a regular jig saw with a fine tooth metal blade. No sparks were generated, or if they were, they were very minimal.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

I did mine a while back using a Bosch multitool with the half round saw attachment, no sparks at all and nice clean straight cuts, made a small steel frame bent to same shape and riveted that and then drilled and riveted the cut out piece back in.........
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

Do you have the finished picture?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

Balmoral1958 wrote:
Do you have the finished picture?


I was just going to ask the same question Smile

I'd be interested to see how you fabricated the steel frame, as it was something that I was actually considering myself.

I want to fix the bit of a hack that the PO did with cutting the hole (starting with doing it a few inches off to the right of the sender), but only if I can do it cleanly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

At this rate, we should all chip in on a bus for the sole purpose of being able to cut the metal piece off as a cover for a perfect fit. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

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Balmoral1958 wrote:
Do you have the finished picture?


I was just going to ask the same question Smile

I'd be interested to see how you fabricated the steel frame, as it was something that I was actually considering myself.

I want to fix the bit of a hack that the PO did with cutting the hole (starting with doing it a few inches off to the right of the sender), but only if I can do it cleanly.


As requested gents.........

I used some sheet steel to knock up a nice small frame to sit under the hole....
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I then put it in the hole and drilled and riveted it into place....
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I then attached my cut out piece to the frame and drilled and used small self tappers, picture taken before I painted the screws and rivets so it does look better than this currently....
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I'm sure the purists will say I did a shit job but I'm happy with it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

Thanks so much for following up with the pictures!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

For the spark concious

Just putting a box fan under the car will blow in enough air to get below the explosive limit while you cut. This won't help if you cut into the tank but that's a Darlose event
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

Could you give the position of the hole please.

Seen numerous diagrams but yours looks like its in the perfect position.

Thanks again for the pictures!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

OK - so I have decided not to cut the access hole.

Firewall is out. Tight but managed to get it out.

Question- can I just pull the tank out enough to get to the sender?

I'm replacing all the rubber hoses and vent pieces as well.

Hope the made in Denmark sender will last as long as the original..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
For the spark concious

Just putting a box fan under the car will blow in enough air to get below the explosive limit while you cut. This won't help if you cut into the tank but that's a Darlose event


Another thing for the spark concious- a little cutting oil on your saw blade takes care of that concern. I used a 4 1/4" hole saw from harbor freight, cut like butter.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel sender access hole, to do or not to do? Reply with quote

Just cut it ...so what !!!>>>just make a corrugated patch with a gasket or RTV 30 minutes its done.You should have the carpet over it anyways.
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