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airkooledchris Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: Heater control box with dump tubes - what years was it avail |
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I know they came on the 1979 models, but what other years did the heater control boxes have the extra connection for the dump tubes?
I have one on one side and not on the driver side. I have a dump tube for that side, just not the control box. Im hoping that knowing the date range will assist in my hunt to track one of these down.
I have 3 really nice control boxes (2 drivers and 1 passenger side) but all of them are missing the extra port for the dump tube.
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Westfabulous Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 4207 Location: The tropic of Canada, dodging the giant flying moose of Surrey!
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Got them on my bus, and I'm pretty sure they were'79 only. Recently restored mine back to their original color:
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seventyfo Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007 Posts: 916 Location: Ocoee FL
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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They are on my '78 also. _________________ 85 Vanagon GL Westy GW 2.2 (Rebuilt by YT)
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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My Cali 78 has them. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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78 & 79 _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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VDubTech Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
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a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
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Collie Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2006 Posts: 1285 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I thought they were only for automatics.......
Am I wrong here?
I had them on my '79 Auto Westy. |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Collie wrote: |
Am I wrong here?
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Yes.
What would the logic be? Automatics need to dump heat and manuals don't? _________________ Eric
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Collie wrote: |
I thought they were only for automatics.......
Am I wrong here?
I had them on my '79 Auto Westy. |
People seem to feel they were an emission control device. By dumping the heater air underneath it lowered the temperature of the fuel tank and lessened evaporation. I don't think they had much if anything to do with engine cooling. VW eliminated them on the air cooled Vanagons which had the tank located far away from the flapper valves. |
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Collie Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2006 Posts: 1285 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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EZ Gruv wrote: |
Collie wrote: |
Am I wrong here?
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Yes.
What would the logic be? Automatics need to dump heat and manuals don't? |
Hey, I dont know what the logic would be but its something I read here a long time ago....
I took them off and all was well with the world......... |
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phoneguy Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Resurrecting an old thread with a question.
I know of a 77 that has them, is this an aberration ? _________________ "When my ship comes in I'll be at the airport"
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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phoneguy wrote: |
Resurrecting an old thread with a question.
I know of a 77 that has them, is this an aberration ? |
Tough to say, 77 production dated 78 model?, transplanted later engine?, who knows? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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phoneguy wrote: |
Resurrecting an old thread with a question.
I know of a 77 that has them, is this an aberration ? |
Could be just a part of the great transporter stew. |
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Wild Bill Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2006 Posts: 1013 Location: Pepsi-Cola, Fl
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone have the part number(s) for the flexiable cardboard tubes that are between the heater box dump and the metal exhaust tubes? _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Life in the Fast Lane ?....What the Hell does that feel Like?"
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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If you really want them then you can get such tubing from any decent FLAPS. It will run fine without them. |
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vw76westy Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 1584 Location: so cal
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: |
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i have consistantly seen them on GE engines
which have hydrollic lifters (78-79)
and on vanogons also........
so if that 77 has a 78-78 GE engine
the dump tubes and controll boxes came with the engine _________________ order your BAY WINDOW T-SHIRT here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1526918
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 2940 Location: East Northport, NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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My bus is a 77, though oddly, the M plate decodes to say its a 77. More confusing is that it was built 7/27/77
Mine is the bus phoneguy is talking about, it does have the dump tubes.
Mine is a GE engine as stated above, what does that mean though? Why would my 77 bus, have an engine coded to 78/79? Or is my bus really a closeted 78?
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SGKent Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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the change year was 1978. Someone has put a later engine in yours. That said check the front VIN with the rear Vin and be sure they match the M-code. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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vw76westy Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 1584 Location: so cal
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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obnoxiousblue wrote: |
My bus is a 77, though oddly, the M plate decodes to say its a 77. More confusing is that it was built 7/27/77
Mine is the bus phoneguy is talking about, it does have the dump tubes.
Mine is a GE engine as stated above, what does that mean though? Why would my 77 bus, have an engine coded to 78/79? Or is my bus really a closeted 78?
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seriously your asking how can a 40 year vw possibly have a engine
from a newer bus that happens to be the same size and will bolt right in
did it ever occur to you that at some point in the buses life
the engine took a shit
and the owner at the time decided to buy a used engine insted of rebuilding the original ........ _________________ order your BAY WINDOW T-SHIRT here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1526918
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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vw76westy wrote: |
did it ever occur to you that at some point in the buses life
the engine took a shit
and the owner at the time decided to buy a used engine insted of rebuilding the original ........ |
Very plausible as at one time wrecking yards were overflowing with low mileage near new buses, but also consider the production date being 3 days before the summer holiday/model year changeover, maybe some of next years parts made it to the line ahead of the break? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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