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udidwht
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 Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:35 am Post subject: Re: front splash pan is different too, I guess |
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| nathansnathan wrote: |
Old dkp driver pm'd me with a front splash pan he'd found on a 72 kombi. Mine didn't have one on when I got it, and I've never checked, but I think this might be a 72 only part. When I fix the dent I've put in mine, I'm thinking of welding shut the inspection hole.
as compared to the later.
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72 Westy (Original owner) here...splash pan on 72 came with inspection hole. Some brake items were 1 year only as well.
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old DKP driver
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| Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:36 am Post subject: 72 inspection pan |
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The inspection pan without the larger hole was from a 72 Kombi.And since
i too own a 72 Kombi i noticed right away that the pan was odd compared
to what i have seen in the past.
So,there must be at least 4 different styles Plus 1968 models.
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brandt
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I looked at long lost 72 out on the Navajo Reservation today. Nice except for the big dent in the nose and pass door. Little rust. No engine.
I'm more of a 78 guy what parts would work for me?
Trans? CVs? Starter? I'm thinking spares
Maybe I'll post it in the Bus Hunting thread but I don't plan to bring it home. At least not at the moment. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| brandt wrote: |
I looked at long lost 72 out on the Navajo Reservation today. Nice except for the big dent in the nose and pass door. Little rust. No engine.
I'm more of a 78 guy what parts would work for me?
Trans? CVs? Starter? I'm thinking spares
Maybe I'll post it in the Bus Hunting thread but I don't plan to bring it home. At least not at the moment. |
trans is different, cvs might work. the wheels interchange. thats about all i can think of, but im tired. 
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nathansnathan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:53 am Post subject: |
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This is a 72 bus motor in the classifieds, judging by the aircleaner and the coil bracket (bent over, but it's there). -looks remarkably complete. It's interesting to see the ac pump attached with the bracket, too.
I'd love to see, like busdaddy's 72 motor, all nice, on a stand.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1449634
BTW, does anyone know what white numbers would have been painted on the tin of a CB code engine? |
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1967250s
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72 was last year for the metal painted timing ring. If it wasn't for the 72, there would be no later models!
450, 000 miles and still going-72 Deluxe! |
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nathansnathan
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Is the moustache bar, on the end, is that different? Mine doesn't have that, but mine is bastardized bad. -Those little nubs, like a slot? Anyone know?
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shiningstar76
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Great thread for reference. Although it looks like I'll need a 72 parts bus.
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nathansnathan
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| My 72 doesn't have a moustache bar like that one^^^^ |
Here's another 72 motor that has the "nubs". I wonder if it's a early 72/ late 72 thing. This one is from a deluxe, but I'm not sure of the vintage. I hope I will know soon actually, as I think that I've bought this pile of 72 goodness  Hopefully going to pick it up in like 2 weeks. 
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old DKP driver
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject: engine carrier |
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Nathan,That engine carrier is from a 411/412 and pretty odd to be on a
carbed engine.? But then again. perhaps they were installed on the 8/71
early model bus' .as long as the other 4 bolt holes are there then,thats all that really matters.
but you do have alot of good Stuff there!!
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I have about 8 rear engine supports, never seen a tab like that before.
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1967250s
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Ah, yes, the bar is 72 only, i'm pretty sure, later ones went to solid ends. Just remembered, the clutch and disc are 210 mm, later went to 215 ( 215mm disc will fit '72 210mm flywheel, but they are much less expensive than a 210mm disc, if you can find a 210! ).
Not sure when this changed, but I noticed on some body work threads on later models, the slider door cover on '72's has a long chrome countersunk screw through the 'C' pillar to hold the front of the slider cover with an 8mm nut, and later went to no screw. It looks like one of the screws that hold on the tail light lenses or front turn signal lenses, only it is about 3 inches long. Unfortunately , mine broke years ago.
Next is that later models went to a wider pitch "wood" or "plastic" type thread on the screws that hold the tail light bezels on. My '72 has/had a machine thread, maybe 4-5mm with 0.5 mm pitch??, and a metal insert in the bulb mount. These are also getting hard to find as the og grey plastic of the bulb holders is now crumbling and the metal inserts are pulling out with too much force used in the past.
Also, the e- brake bar in the rear drum is '72 only. OG was a 2 piece, welded and split bar to the lever with a special rivet and clip.
Shift rod was also 3 piece, later was 2. |
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NoBudgetVWGarage
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I just went out and looked at mine and took a couple of picks.
Do those tangs get used when installed on the bus? I took mine off a while back and don't remember.
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1967250s
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The tangs don't seem to be for anything special, except maybe that it was easier to produce them that way at the time. Too small to do much.
Has anyone mentioned the rear bumper gravel guard? Who came up with that idea? I see no valid reason for it, except to get in the way. I think I strill have mine buried in storage |
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old DKP driver
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| Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:43 am Post subject: engine crossbar |
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The 411/412 uses 8mm adjustment bolts for engine height and the 'tangs'
support the Verticle bolts.
each side has a bolt and 2 nuts to lower or raise the engine.
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nathansnathan
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Ah, yes, the bar is 72 only, i'm pretty sure, later ones went to solid ends. Just remembered, the clutch and disc are 210 mm, later went to 215 ( 215mm disc will fit '72 210mm flywheel, but they are much less expensive than a 210mm disc, if you can find a 210! ).
Not sure when this changed, but I noticed on some body work threads on later models, the slider door cover on '72's has a long chrome countersunk screw through the 'C' pillar to hold the front of the slider cover with an 8mm nut, and later went to no screw. It looks like one of the screws that hold on the tail light lenses or front turn signal lenses, only it is about 3 inches long. Unfortunately , mine broke years ago.
Next is that later models went to a wider pitch "wood" or "plastic" type thread on the screws that hold the tail light bezels on. My '72 has/had a machine thread, maybe 4-5mm with 0.5 mm pitch??, and a metal insert in the bulb mount. These are also getting hard to find as the og grey plastic of the bulb holders is now crumbling and the metal inserts are pulling out with too much force used in the past.
Also, the e- brake bar in the rear drum is '72 only. OG was a 2 piece, welded and split bar to the lever with a special rivet and clip.
Shift rod was also 3 piece, later was 2. |
That is cool to know about the support bar. Seems it was only very early 72. Cool, though.
Mine was built 10/71, 2 months into production. I remember my tail light housings to be held on by nuts and washers, the (maybe 4 or 5mm) threads being cast into the plastic housings. I swapped out the grey part with replacements long ago, seemed the same.
I think this is the parking brake thing you mention. I remember having quite a time figuring that out to fix this one that got damaged from that bolt there which is supposed to be the rivet clip, as you say. The rivet clip is pretty important as the back of the lower is all worn from rubbing. I did eventually find one at a junkyard. I remember taking off a lot of drums in a pile of assemblies. 
I didn't know that about the shift rod either. Thanks for posting this.  |
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nathansnathan
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The tangs don't seem to be for anything special, except maybe that it was easier to produce them that way at the time. Too small to do much.
Has anyone mentioned the rear bumper gravel guard? Who came up with that idea? I see no valid reason for it, except to get in the way. I think I strill have mine buried in storage |
72 was the first year of the gravel gaurd, though it was supposedly on all buses after through 78, the hole pattern was different on the 72 because it was the only one to go on a round bumper. I think it is just aesthetic. I feel naked without mine. Someone dented mine a few months ago in the parking ramp at work, but it is straightened out, my primer is now multicolored.
The engine lid is early 72 only, the short brow. I'm a big fan of the short brow engine lid.
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CoastalAirCooledVW
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The tangs don't seem to be for anything special, except maybe that it was easier to produce them that way at the time. Too small to do much.
Has anyone mentioned the rear bumper gravel guard? Who came up with that idea? I see no valid reason for it, except to get in the way. I think I strill have mine buried in storage |
My 72 bus came with one and the reason I like it is because it hides the muffler and makes the bus look more "deluxe".
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[quote="1967250s"]Ah, yes, the of
Mine was built 10/71, 2 months into production. I remember my tail light housings to be held on by nuts and washers, the (maybe 4 or 5mm) threads being cast into the plastic housings. I swapped out the grey part with replacements long ago, seemed the same.
Hiya Nathan? I'm real curious what your vin # is, if you'd share? Mine was also made in 10/71. Mine is 2046370- deluxe, bench front seat, transporter, elm green and white top-L60d and L90d. Originally sold in Coos Bay, OR.
Also, how is the engine lid different? Not sure what you mean by short brow? |
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