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mtnroads Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2006 Posts: 403 Location: Minkler, CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: sand rail windshield frame help... |
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here are some pics of the windshield in my Burro. square frame with glass "glued" to front of frame.
I was told that all modern cars have glued in windshields, this is now the industry standard mounting method. _________________ pax
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hillmotorsports Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2014 Posts: 432 Location: Morrisburg, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: sand rail windshield frame help... |
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Right on the money superpro56.
I spent some time chatting with John and John John at Acme this morning. You will notice that the part number for the tubular chassis windshield rubber includes BP6049 to let people know it is the same as the Bug Pack part. In fact the rubber molding is made by the same supplier that formerly made it for Bug Pack, using the same dies, so the product is identical in every respect.
Acme and an unidentified partner now own the dies and the rights to the molding, keep a minimum of 20 on the shelf.
And my problem with "store pickup only" seems to be a software issue that they are working to resolve.
My parts are on the way! _________________ Rosemarie and Paul Hill
Morrisburg, Ontario
(With way more projects than spare time!) |
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superpro56 Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2012 Posts: 206 Location: Michigan
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hillmotorsports Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2014 Posts: 432 Location: Morrisburg, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:17 am Post subject: Re: sand rail windshield frame help... |
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The berrien link didn't work but I did finally find the rubber on their site.
Could someone that is familiar with them tell me why the part is only available for store pickup when I try to order? An 8 hr drive each way seems a bit excessive for a small roll of rubber! _________________ Rosemarie and Paul Hill
Morrisburg, Ontario
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5410 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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This is the way to go. Any auto glass place can cut a sheet of safety glass and install it if you provide the rubber. Most shops use a Urethane based glue. Good stuff. No need for a frame of any kind. Just goes right on the tubing. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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hillmotorsports Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2014 Posts: 432 Location: Morrisburg, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:05 am Post subject: Re: sand rail windshield frame help... |
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With the Bug Pack 6049 gasket no longer available has anyone found an alternative other than a flange welded inside the tube? _________________ Rosemarie and Paul Hill
Morrisburg, Ontario
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Newbie9096 Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2015 Posts: 11 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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JRinTX wrote: |
Check out my gallery for pics of my sandrail with a safety glass windshield. I built a seperate frame for the glass and attached to my rail using billet aluminum clamps.
I have a drawing of my frame in the gallery also. |
How did you hold the windshield fram on the sand rail. I see the 2 clamps on the bottom but what about the top since the glass is in the way of a clamp? |
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EMPIImp69 Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2006 Posts: 3374 Location: Dirty Jersey
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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This is something like what Im looking to do or have done..
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JRinTX Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Lumberton, Tx
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I ended up not using aluminum in order to save a few bucks. I used galvanized rigid conduit and bent it using a conduit bender. I used 1/8" x 1/2" flat bar and cold bent it using a larger diameter pipe as a die. Then fit everything together, welded and painted flat black. I had the glass cut and installed using a standard rubber gasket used for this purpose.
For welding reasons, galvanized was not a good choice. But it was cheap. Hope this all makes sense! lol |
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EMPIImp69 Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2006 Posts: 3374 Location: Dirty Jersey
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Dan the workingstiff wrote: |
What we did was take 3/4 x3/4 aluminum angle and screwed it in place. For the upper bends or radius we put multiple relief cuts in until it fit nicely in only one surface of the angle not both sides. I'd guess you should be able to get it done under an hour. Worked great, I'll do it this way again next time also! |
Thanks Dan, this idea intrigues me. Do you have any pics? When you screwed the alum. angle down, you mean into the rail's tubing? Did you use the standard rubber to hold the glass in? thx _________________ 1963 Ragtop Bug |
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Dan the workingstiff Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2006 Posts: 824 Location: Downriver, MI
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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What we did was take 3/4 x3/4 aluminum angle and screwed it in place. For the upper bends or radius we put multiple relief cuts in until it fit nicely in only one surface of the angle not both sides. I'd guess you should be able to get it done under an hour. Worked great, I'll do it this way again next time also! _________________ '69 Beetle
'66 FG buggy
My other air-cooled's
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EMPIImp69 Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2006 Posts: 3374 Location: Dirty Jersey
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Did you do the bends for the aluminum pipe and flat bar yourself? Did you have someone weld it up? It looks like a nice clean job. I already have 4 Dzus fasteners welded along my opening that I could fasten the windshield frame to. _________________ 1963 Ragtop Bug |
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JRinTX Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Lumberton, Tx
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Check out my gallery for pics of my sandrail with a safety glass windshield. I built a seperate frame for the glass and attached to my rail using billet aluminum clamps.
I have a drawing of my frame in the gallery also. |
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EMPIImp69 Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2006 Posts: 3374 Location: Dirty Jersey
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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You guys have any pics of yours? I want a safety glass windshield for my rail. I'll just remove that top visor piece that's on there now.
_________________ 1963 Ragtop Bug |
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bumblebeecaz Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2006 Posts: 265 Location: virginia
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:32 am Post subject: |
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i used 1/4 inch angle steel and welded in a frame to the inside of the tubing all the way around and then took it to a glass shop , and they cut and glued in the glass and used a narrow weatherstrip on the outside around the edge of the glass. |
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DWP Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2007 Posts: 577 Location: Pa.
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: |
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There is no "frame"
The rubber fits inside the roll bar, you can glue or screw in place.
The windshield glass goes in a groove in the rubber just like a standard windshield frame.
DWP |
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RDAY Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2011 Posts: 478 Location: NY
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:33 am Post subject: |
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but how do u guys attach the windshield frame to the tubular frame of the sand rail because i dont believe u can weld cuz the windshield frame is aluminum and the rail is steel. |
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DWP Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2007 Posts: 577 Location: Pa.
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RDAY Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2011 Posts: 478 Location: NY
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: sand rail windshield frame help... |
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How did u guys mount urs to the tube frame cuz u cant drill the safety glass apparently. |
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