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Vinnems Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2008 Posts: 1183 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: Spring plates with body off? |
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Is it possible to put the spring plates back on with the body off? That tool everyone uses requires mounting on the body, so that's a no go. |
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mjenner Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2008 Posts: 268 Location: essex,on,canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Makes it much much easier actually |
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JonF Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2005 Posts: 2030 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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chain the pan down to a floor jack. _________________ 68 bug 1600sp 30/31
68 baja 1600sp 010 32ndix |
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ryohey Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Plains, PA
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Joel Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2006 Posts: 11099 Location: NSW Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Mechanical advantage is your friend.
Make the bar a little bit longer than this and you can just lift it on by hand, with the length in the pic I can almost manage it by hand without the jack
_________________ Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
1974 Germanlook 1303 2.5 Suba-Beetle |
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Vinnems Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2008 Posts: 1183 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Does the pan have enough weight weight to manage that, Joel?
Ryohoy, I don't have the tool, but I think I will order it now. I was worried there would be an issue of it not fitting right or something.
Jon, I don't get what you're saying? Picture reference, maybe? |
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JonF Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2005 Posts: 2030 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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sorry no photo but look at joels and you can get an idea what i am talking about.
put the floor jack under the spring plate. take the chain and hook it to the upper shock mount and then to the axle of the floor jack. this will keep the floor pan from lifting up off of your jack stands when loading the spring. _________________ 68 bug 1600sp 30/31
68 baja 1600sp 010 32ndix |
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Vinnems Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2008 Posts: 1183 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Ohhhhhh, I see what you mean. Yeah, that's a good idea. I think I have a long enough chain. |
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Vinnems Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2008 Posts: 1183 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Thanks again, Joel. This worked wonders. Angle iron is a quarter of an inch thick, about a yard long, though I had to cut some off because it was too long. Was like $20 from Lowes. Drilled a 7/16th hole near one end, stuck a grade eight bolt with nut through it and the spring plate. Then lifted it on the stop plate BY HAND. I'm 130 lbs malnutritioned sloth and I did this by hand. It really is the easiest easiest way to do this. The weight of the transmission plus both control arms was enough to keep the car from lifting, but just barely.
Also, this site has stock angles for different years of Beetles, for those like me how pulled the torsion bars and didn't mark anything. I did both sides a 22 degrees, and I have no problem with reindexing them later because this simple bar made it so easy.
Question: does the spring plate go on the inside or outside of the control arm?
Also, to make sure: I put the one marked 'R' on the passenger side. I was assuming it meant right looking from the back of the car, correct? |
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