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awalls Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Beaverton, OR
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: engine fire smell? |
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So I had a engine fire yesterday on my '64 1200. but I think I put it out in time to save the motor besides the hoses and electronics. What I can't figure out is how to get the smell of smoke out of the cabin.[/list] _________________ '64 Bug
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:30 am Post subject: |
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A much more important question is why did you have a fire to begin with? If you don't get that answered you may just have another! _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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awalls Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Beaverton, OR
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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The answer to that my friend is the fuel line coming off the carb. _________________ '64 Bug
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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awalls wrote: |
The answer to that my friend is the fuel line coming off the carb. |
A not-so-uncommon failure. the friggin tube pulls out. A weak spot and MANY posts have addressed this problem. Hopefully, your fire was small and not too distructive.
You need to secure the fuel inlet to the carb and ensure that any fuel filter is anywhere BUT in the engine compartment _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
OG member of the '67 Posse
A few of my toys, past and present
'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental |
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65guy Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2005 Posts: 46
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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febreeze, lysol, and oust. I used a lot of that to get that damn smell outta my buddy's 62 |
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to eliminate the smell, get an ozone machine. Febreeze, Lysol, etc, just masks the smell. Most importantly is to ensure the problem doesnt repeat itself. _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
OG member of the '67 Posse
A few of my toys, past and present
'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental |
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awalls Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Beaverton, OR
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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I'll look into the ozone machine. And I think I'm going to use the safety wire trick I saw in other posts on engine fires to prevent it from happening again. It sucked looking like an idiot on the side of the highway as your cars on fire. _________________ '64 Bug
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iVolkswagen The Modern-Day Hippie
Joined: October 21, 2008 Posts: 1436 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: |
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I have heard charcoal would also help but I am not sure how you would go about storing it in the car to do its job.
I am actually in the exact same boat as you, awalls.
Fuel inlet to the carb came off. If you find a way to get rid of it, let me know. Otherwise I will be stocking up on cleaners and air fresheners for a while.. _________________ TJ
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66brm Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2010 Posts: 3676 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Thats one way to add patina, not recommended though...., be sure to pull out the insulation pads above the engine bay on each side as they will contain a heap of the burnt smell that can get into the cabin _________________ Aust. RHD 66 Type 1
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I am an expert at fitting things in holes, been doing it a long time |
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:04 am Post subject: |
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If you do pull the pillows out of the top corners of the engine bay, be SURE you put new ones back in!
Without the pillows, those roof channels become a conduit for air to enter the low pressure cabin. When that happens it will bring all that stink back inside along with any carbon monoxide that may be back there.
One question for both you fire guys...Did you have an inline filter between the pump and carb? _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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awalls Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Beaverton, OR
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Yep I had a filter in the engine compartment but it was clearly not the issue as I now know it could have been. _________________ '64 Bug
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:35 am Post subject: |
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awalls wrote: |
Yep I had a filter in the engine compartment but it was clearly not the issue as I now know it could have been. |
Well the extra weight and vibration of the filter in the line can help to cause the fitting to pull out of the carb. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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awalls Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Beaverton, OR
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Ahh I never thought of that. Well when it all goes back together I'm putting it somewhere else. _________________ '64 Bug
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iVolkswagen The Modern-Day Hippie
Joined: October 21, 2008 Posts: 1436 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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drscope wrote: |
One question for both you fire guys...Did you have an inline filter between the pump and carb? |
No. _________________ TJ
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Boom Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2007 Posts: 1119 Location: Houston by God Texas
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HRVW Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2011 Posts: 2531 Location: Rosarito, Mexico
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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A solution for the nipple coming out of the carb or early fuel pump is to clamp down on the nipple with a pair of pliers leaving teeth nicks and then gently tap back inside the carb or fuel pump using a soft mallet...not too hard so as to crack the carb cover. I did thast many times on customers cars in the past... never any problems afterwards.
Has happened to me when pulling off the fuel hose needing replacement the nipple came out so I started the crimp/teeth method.
Just a thought to consider.
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