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slow36hp scott wimberley
Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 3113 Location: mukilteo washington
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left_coast*9 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2009 Posts: 740 Location: Puyallup, WA
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have a fender in the stash if you need it and could lend a hand with hood if needed. I saw that on cl and thought it looked pretty nice. I would look for a radio or blue delete and keep the multi band for that oval of yours |
Thanks Slow! Well incidentally I picked up two fenders, a hood, and a set of nice pop-outs at the swap meet this last weekend for dirt cheap so i think I have more than I need. The car's hood may actually be worth it , and easy, to save. We'll see.
So is the radio Oval-era?
Actually, I'm really interested in picking your brain about how you repaired the front of your car, as in how you pulled it out. I saw the one pic where you have it braced with some treated lumber hooked to the rear of a pickup. All I know is the car looks great. Are you happy with how that went and was it tough to do? _________________ Jet City 1957 VW Oval Rag Build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=408791
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Seablue65Bug Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2009 Posts: 36 Location: McMinnville/Corvallis, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Where in Oregon is it from? _________________ 1965 Sea Blue Beetle Project
Midway Motors, McMinnville, Oregon |
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gtxbullet Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2010 Posts: 258 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin, 53072, United States
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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nice 65!!!
if those rear shoes are the originals that would be sweet. leave them if the shoes don't have any grease damage. looks like the axel seals at the drums are good and dry.
WOW.
as far as repaints, and guessing mileage. all that matters is you have a cool car. my 65 Bug had a repaint in the 80's from the stock sky blue, to a seafoam greenish color. YUCK. so I sanded most of it back to the stock color and looked for the cheapest paint I could find that would match within 3-6 shades.
RUSTOLEUM $3.77 a can at walmart. hahaha.
then NON-ACRYLIC LAQUER Clearcoat. looks fine. drives fine. just have issues whenever I try to put upgrades or better parts on...
nice interior. I WANT THOSE SEATS!!! I love white interior upolstery!! _________________ Technician / Mechanic / Specialist
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slow36hp scott wimberley
Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 3113 Location: mukilteo washington
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left_coast*9 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2009 Posts: 740 Location: Puyallup, WA
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left_coast*9 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Scott and GTX, thanks for the replies guys. I think with that radio I'll just polish and clean it up and MAYBE see if I can get it running. Looks sooo cool in the dash!
As far as other updates go, I've been working on the brakes. Just about have all four corners done. By this weekend hopefully I'l have them all adjusted, bled and ready to roll. I've also been working one the engine a bit. The PO installed the fan belt incorrectly on the generator pulley, and it was a Fn mess! The gen housing was ground down quite a bit. You know how there is a little half-moon keyway on the shaft of pulley? It's kinda like a groove in the shaft, along the length of the shaft from the front to the back of the car. Anyway, without that little key, the fan belt pulley pretty much spins freely on the shaft! A little friction is about all that made the gen and fan spin. Plus they put the pulley shims on the OUTSIDE of the pulley, under the pulley nut. Somebody thought they were washers. I'll try and post a oic later. Hopefully this generator isn't tits. The lights on the dash work fine, so I think it will be ok.
Anyway, this motor runs like a dream -- absolutely purrs. Another note on engine -- the carb is a Solex 28PICT, which is supposedly for 36 and 40 hp motors, not a 1500 or 1600. So I figure the engine is under carbureted, but as long as it runs well, I'm gonna roll with it. I plan to clean it up real nice this weekend and DRIVE IT.
Last note is kinda disappointing, but here it goes. I think I can proclaim once and for all that this car is not a 15,000 original mile car. The car has new tires on it, and I found the receipt in the glove box from 2005 and the mileage on the envelope says: 1,054 miles. LOL Well I guess that just about lets the cat outa the bag. No big deal, like you all have said, it don't matter, its still a cool ass car. Figures with the rebuilt engine, repaint, etc. I guess the only explanation with the dates on the brake pads is THESE CARS DON'T WEIGH MUCH, and even after 115K miles the rears could look like new. I am convinced the rear pads are original. Like I said before, the fronts were changed once in 1982 or so. Pretty cool though, uh?!
More to come. _________________ Jet City 1957 VW Oval Rag Build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=408791
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gtxbullet Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2010 Posts: 258 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin, 53072, United States
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NewVWFan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Nice find!! |
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left_coast*9 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2009 Posts: 740 Location: Puyallup, WA
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Well, just dropping in, did a ton of work on the bug this weekend, new generator was needed after all, what a pain in the ass that was (not really) since you pretty much have to remove the whole top of the engine. And of course, while I was there I repainted the fan shroud, degreased and cleaned the whole engine compartment etc etc. The best part of it all was that this is the first VW motor I have ever worked on and I learned a ton! Pics to follow I promise. _________________ Jet City 1957 VW Oval Rag Build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=408791
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gtxbullet Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2010 Posts: 258 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin, 53072, United States
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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left_coast*9 wrote: |
Well, just dropping in, did a ton of work on the bug this weekend, new generator was needed after all, what a pain in the ass that was (not really) since you pretty much have to remove the whole top of the engine. And of course, while I was there I repainted the fan shroud, degreased and cleaned the whole engine compartment etc etc. The best part of it all was that this is the first VW motor I have ever worked on and I learned a ton! Pics to follow I promise. |
oh there better be pics, there better be...haha
glad you got your hands dirty with your engine.
keep up the good work!!! _________________ Technician / Mechanic / Specialist
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left_coast*9 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:32 am Post subject: |
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As promised
Here is a pic of the generator. It turns out that the PO did not install a woodruff key the last go around, so the freakin gen pully just spun freely and ground down the generator shaft and the front. This lead to a new generator and pulley as it was wasted too. Of course went stock 6V for both
So off it came. Little did I know that the fan shroud had to come off too!
Engine compartment is a mess, sook at all the grime, dirt, pine needles, etc, yowzers. It is THICK down there.
Then degrease, prep, prime and paint!
You know how these things go -- they always SNOWBALL. So of course having the engine this far taken apart I had to degrease everything. Looks amazing! I got it all installed except for the carburetor, can't believe I didn't snap a photo. Sheesh. Soon tho. _________________ Jet City 1957 VW Oval Rag Build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=408791
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gerg a.k.a. 6volt65
Joined: April 25, 2003 Posts: 5454 Location: Monroe, LA
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Amazing OG Sea Blue find!!!! I wish I had a car like this to look over many times to get mine as correct as possible!
Mine is 115831xxx, so not too far behind you.
_________________ Gerg
. . . I got 99 problems and my bus ain't one . . .
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gerg a.k.a. 6volt65
Joined: April 25, 2003 Posts: 5454 Location: Monroe, LA
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!!
Cheated and cut the sunroof in _________________ Gerg
. . . I got 99 problems and my bus ain't one . . .
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations on your solid find leftcoast!
Rear brake shoes are most likely not original to the car- German dates are day-month-year; plus I cant imagine that a set of new shoes would stick around on the assembly line over a year until your car was built.
For your LF fender and body pulling, a simple do-it-yourself idea came to mind. If you have some sturdy angle-iron, say 1.5' long, then drill two 1/2" holes so that they line up with two of your fender mounting holes. On the other flange of the iron drill a larger hole midway between the two fender holes- that's where you'll hook in a "come-along". Use two of your fender bolts, two large fender washers and attach your angle iron to two of the fender bolt holes. Tighten firmly. With the come-along angled outward to the side, GENTLY start pulling. Don;'t do all at once; remove the bracket and remount on two other fender holes and repeat so that you gradually pull the whole sidewall out. You must keep an eye on the fender bolts and the captive nuts in the body so that you don't pull them out, but you're so lucky to have a solid unrusted boy there. Good chance you'll get the side panel quite close to normal; certainly enough to mount one of your new fender especially if its a used German unit. Consider taking your glovebox off and to a good auto paint store, to have it color-matched in a large spray can. Then give your fender 2 even coats... If this simple method does not work well, you can always go for true auto paint for spray gun/compressor application.
I agree to keep your 1500 engine and its carb for now if it runs so well; should be able to do 70 all day. Beautifully kept interior! Good work so far on the engine rejuvenation. If you;re using a conventional spray can for the shrouds, if you ever get any gasoline to drip on them, don't wipe it off! The gas will soften the paint and it'll come off on your rag/towel. Just let it air dry.
Did you notice your ignition switch? Those are typically European-style with an integrated steering column lock. US-spec ignition switches were next to the ashtray. |
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left_coast*9 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Rome wrote: |
Congratulations on your solid find leftcoast!
Rear brake shoes are most likely not original to the car- German dates are day-month-year; plus I cant imagine that a set of new shoes would stick around on the assembly line over a year until your car was built.
For your LF fender and body pulling, a simple do-it-yourself idea came to mind. If you have some sturdy angle-iron, say 1.5' long, then drill two 1/2" holes so that they line up with two of your fender mounting holes. On the other flange of the iron drill a larger hole midway between the two fender holes- that's where you'll hook in a "come-along". Use two of your fender bolts, two large fender washers and attach your angle iron to two of the fender bolt holes. Tighten firmly. With the come-along angled outward to the side, GENTLY start pulling. Don;'t do all at once; remove the bracket and remount on two other fender holes and repeat so that you gradually pull the whole sidewall out. You must keep an eye on the fender bolts and the captive nuts in the body so that you don't pull them out, but you're so lucky to have a solid unrusted boy there. Good chance you'll get the side panel quite close to normal; certainly enough to mount one of your new fender especially if its a used German unit. Consider taking your glovebox off and to a good auto paint store, to have it color-matched in a large spray can. Then give your fender 2 even coats... If this simple method does not work well, you can always go for true auto paint for spray gun/compressor application.
I agree to keep your 1500 engine and its carb for now if it runs so well; should be able to do 70 all day. Beautifully kept interior! Good work so far on the engine rejuvenation. If you;re using a conventional spray can for the shrouds, if you ever get any gasoline to drip on them, don't wipe it off! The gas will soften the paint and it'll come off on your rag/towel. Just let it air dry.
Did you notice your ignition switch? Those are typically European-style with an integrated steering column lock. US-spec ignition switches were next to the ashtray. |
I think you're probably right about the rear brake shoes --- would be a miracle if they were original. Would be amazing to know the stories behind these cars, uh!?
Well I really like your ideas about pulling out the front. I will be trying this very soon. I wanted to get this baby a roller, runner and stopper first. I am very close to accomplishing all. Motor is back together, carb and all, and again runs well. We'll see how it does under load once I get it to *stop* well. I did adjust the brakes tonight so the next step is to bleed again and see what happens. I need more brake fluid so I'll pick that up on the way home from work tomorrow.
Another thing on the pending pull: the way it was hit, it's almost like the car came up on something; I think I can hook up to the bumper brackets up front and make a lot of fixin' progress. Looking forward to trying. As far as painting goes, I am fully set up to paint conventional single or two-stage polyurethane paint. You got me thinking. Just with the repair, I am going to have to paint the front of the car. I wonder just how tough it would be to just do a repaint of the entire car. Well, OK, I mentioned the word SNOWBALL already -- it's a shitload of work, granted. One big reason I'm kinda leaning in that direction is that the front and rear windows LEAK, and the rubber is totally shot. If I have to pull those and replace the rubber anyways, I might as well shoot the car again. It's already had one repaint so what's one more. This car is a beauty with no rust for F sake. Very very rare find. We shall see.
One more amazing discovery with this car I will share with you guys in good time. Hint: it was found in an old Chilton's manual that came with the car. Stay tuned, and thanks for looking! _________________ Jet City 1957 VW Oval Rag Build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=408791
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left_coast*9 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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This is the Chilton's manual, well worn and properly aged, that came with the car. I am a freakin newbie when it comes to working on these engines, although learning very very fast. I have gained a ton of confidence in the last few weeks. ANYWAY, here is the manual. I actually used it a ton, including performing my very first VW oil change. The real gem is what I found buried in the pages of it.
Check it out -- this is the original Registration for this car from back in 1966. Not sure if it's the FIRST registration issued for the car, but if not it's like the second or third! Car is very likely from Portland, OR. Apologize for blacking out Sheit on the reg - did it out of respect for the orig owner, and any future owners.
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Pretty cool, uh? _________________ Jet City 1957 VW Oval Rag Build:
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