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jazzed Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 628 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:37 am Post subject: Hubcap Clip Questions |
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Just rounded up 5 rims and of the 25 clips, I'm missing 11. Has anyone used the WW clips with success? Should I remove the OG clips and install all new ones, or just install the missing ones? Is the $12 hubcap rivet tool sold by WW worth buying? |
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GLHTurbo Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2009 Posts: 1376 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:43 am Post subject: |
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the tool is a must... I just did a handful on my 14"s. Haven't fit any hubcaps to them yet though to report back. _________________ 1957 Beetle
1966 Bus |
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justcruzin Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2005 Posts: 1493 Location: United States
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Dave24 Samba Hack Purist
Joined: April 14, 2004 Posts: 7442 Location: Hablamos Ingles, So. Cal.
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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On my 5 rims, there were only 8-10 clips left. I removed them, and replaced them w/the WW clips and rivits. Been on the bus for 5+ years, no issues. IMO, they are just fine... nice and tight. And YES, buy the tool. |
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dreadnotmusic Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2003 Posts: 880 Location: Guam, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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The WW rivets and clips worked great. I made my own tool though:
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sventinker Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2009 Posts: 1481 Location: the sandbox
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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does anyone know the hole size for the rivet? mine were drilled out very poorly and need to be welded shut and redrilled. should I drill it to fit the smaller WW rivet? or go factory size? _________________ April 3rd 62 standard mgr/pw
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cru62 Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 4117 Location: Margaritaville.....24/7
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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I found the rivets to be smaller than the original holes as well. I don't know why they would send those, because the originals seems to fit pretty tightly in the hole. I will try to get the correct size rivets.
The biggest problem I had was that the clip touches the rim where the cap fits. So it is almost impossible to paint the rim decently with the clips installed. I also have a set of the chinese Huff clips which are just as bad. If they are held up to a good original clip the profile is way off. _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
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KarmannBob Samba Member
Joined: May 05, 2006 Posts: 660 Location: Maple Falls, WA
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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I had no problem with the WW clips, rivets, and tool. I think the original clips are made of a tougher spring steel though. To avoid enlarging the rivet holes I carefully ground off the original rivet heads and then popped the remains through with a punch rather than drilling. I also painted the clips prior to installing to delay eventual rust. _________________ '71 Ghia
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VolksFire Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2006 Posts: 901 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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All the repop clips ive used were shit. nothing like wasting all day drilling out broken rivets, then rivet in new ones only to have all 5 snap immediately upon hubcap installation. so pissed
i prefer to use og clips. ill drill out good ones from junk rims. i just pop rivet mine in with a rivet gun. before negative comments, theyre still holding 3 years later with daily use. _________________ Jahnai Pearson - VW Restoration Technician
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sub-hatchtim Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2006 Posts: 2610 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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i used ww clips on all 5 of my rims and i also purchased the tool i dont remember it being all that expensive and it works well
im happy with them
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camerod Volksfab
Joined: October 01, 2002 Posts: 606 Location: washington state
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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The new WW clips are very nice, not to be confused with the old shorty import type that break the first time you pop on your hubcap.
I use an air hammer W/ punch bit to pop out the old pins and the hammer head bit to mushroom the new WW pins using the WW tool as the back stop. takes less than 5min. per wheel start to finish. I usually just replace all of the clips, chances are those old clips are waiting to break the second you slap your caps on.
It helps to dial your air hammer to it's lowest setting( if it is adjustable like the snap-on unit) _________________ DON'T SHIT WHERE YOU EAT! |
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bushaus Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2007 Posts: 809 Location: Long Beach, Calif
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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I used the clips that are sold by Ronnie at Bustoration (samba: splitpile) and made my own tool using a ground-down tool-steel punch and a bench vise. Caps have been off and on lots, no broken clips yet. _________________ 1967 13 window walkthru bus
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fizzbang Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2003 Posts: 196 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:10 am Post subject: |
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I installed the WW clips (about 12 over 4 rims) and they are all still on there and tight after some hubcap pulls dialing in my brakes and other things.
The tool made it very easy for my first time and they are all very tight. Highly recommend the tool and a big vise on a cement floor. The clips seem a little smaller than the hole, but when your beating them it's amazing how they spread and tighten themselves in there.
I would paint them before you install or see if they would bend a hair off the rim. They do seem to touch the rim and you'll miss that little spot like cru62 said. |
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3096 Location: Alberta
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69802 Location: Phoenix Metro
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BeeDubyaBugz Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2007 Posts: 129 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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I just did all my rims with the newer version of the WW hubcap clips. I have had no trouble with them. And we have had the hubcaps off a few times for adjustments of the brakes. Not one problem. They have been on the bus about a year or so. The tool makes the job much easier. The rivets were a hair small but they do tighten up ok. _________________ ALL LOST IN MARSHALL FIRE 12-30-21
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69802 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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sventinker wrote: |
does anyone know the hole size for the rivet? mine were drilled out very poorly and need to be welded shut and redrilled. should I drill it to fit the smaller WW rivet? or go factory size? |
I measured one of my loose original wheels that has no clips or rivets and I measured a little over 5mm.
I have some old clips & rivets I got from OEVeeDub:
The rivets are 4.5mm.
The hole in the clip is 5mm.
I have used these and they worked fine and were tight after I hammered them in.
I think most of the ones on my 15-Window are these clips and rivets.
I have some newer clips & rivets I got from Bill & Steve's at an OCTO show - the rivets and the hole in the clip are both 5mm.
I don't know what WW sells but 5mm would be optimal. _________________ How to Post Photos
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EMPIImp69 Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2006 Posts: 3374 Location: Dirty Jersey
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Anyone ever weld the rivet to the rim on the backside? thanks _________________ 1963 Ragtop Bug |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:33 am Post subject: |
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You can also use a small flathead screw/nut to secure them also. Makes replacement pretty easy |
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RobzKombi Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2003 Posts: 2137
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:05 am Post subject: |
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chrisflstf wrote: |
You can also use a small flathead screw/nut to secure them also. Makes replacement pretty easy |
Yup! that's how i've been doing it as well. |
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