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marc80
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 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:23 am Post subject: original material |
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For those who are interested, I still a a small amount of original never used fabric.
I'll make some pictures later today with the dimensions and post it.
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beetlekey
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:43 am Post subject: Re: original material |
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For those who are interested, I still a a small amount of original never used fabric. (max. 1 chear)
I'll make some pictures later today with the dimensions and post it. |
Are you sure that it is NOS?
If so, please send me a little peace like 10 x 10 cm that is the best for repro.
Marcus
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marc80
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure that it is NOS?
If so, please send me a little peace like 10 x 10 cm that is the best for repro.
Marcus |
@Marcus: Send me a personal message with your adress information, and i'll send you a part of the fabric. |
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marc80
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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This are some pictures of the fabric
If you are interested in the fabric you can make me a good offer. |
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skyto
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| The olive green color seems just right in the upper pictures- and the in lower two the color appears to be brown? Is the fabric the same in all of the pictures, light differences or..? |
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beetlekey
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| The olive green color seems just right in the upper pictures- and the in lower two the color appears to be brown? Is the fabric the same in all of the pictures, light differences or..? |
It is good to have some different samples!
The guys in the factory will figure out the corect colour. They look under 3 different type of light to see what is corect.
Marcus
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marc80
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:48 am Post subject: |
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The colour of the first two pictures are the closest to the fabric.
All the photo's are of the two pieces.
It was already dark yesterday, so I had to use the flashlight of the camera. |
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skyto
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Ok! Now this project has great samples to start with.
A couple of years ago we did test runs for fun, just to see if the cloth could be produced in the cheapest possible way. The warp was just a standard white with no greens. We tried to produce the pattern with weft only. The density wasn't adjusted either. The results were as if they were made in China, very hilarious..
The project was droppped as we couldn't find the right thread with the right shade of green from the limited supplys we had access to. Also the machinery required 100 metres to be produced in order to change the warp to the correct 2 green / 2 white combination. Decided to dye the threads ourselves at some later time. The fabric structure was analyzed in the meantime.
We asked a pro with a handweaving loom, and the price estimate was over 1000 euros for the seats of one car. With two batches the price would have dropped to 750 e / car.
Hopefully people understand that it's rare to get decent seat cloth even for a living-room sofa at the price of 70e/m. If this project succeeds it'll be a real steal! |
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beetlekey
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This are some pictures of the fabric
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By the way, if the groundcolour is the same like beige, we can make some more colours! They just have to change the shootcolour.
Have you guys some more 60 fabriccolours?
Marcus
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beetlekey
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This are some pictures of the fabric
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By the way, if the groundcolour is the same like beige, we can make some more colours! They just have to change the shootcolour.
Have you guys some more 60 fabriccolours?
Marcus |
Have they all the same pattern?
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skyto
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Have they all the same pattern? |
Yes the pattern is the same,
Pastel Blue & turquoise = blue + white
Beryl = olive green + white
all the rest = brown/grey + white
However there willbe some extra work with the colour change, as the warp has these colours too. Weaving the coloured patterns over white threads only won't work here. |
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beetlekey
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thank´s a lot!
Marcus |
Hi Volks,
i am a little bit confused about the fabric on the top, some guys told me that is not 1960?
August 1960 up to July 1961, from Chassis No. 3 192 507 up to 4 010 994 ?
So my question.
is this on the picture on the bottem 61 - 63 beryll green fabric ore what?
August 1961 up to July 1963, from Chassis No. 4 010 995 up to 5 677 118
I am right ore wrong? TELL ME!
Marcus
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Barny55
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Right. The one on the top is a one year only, from mid 60 to mid 61, the bottom one up to 63. |
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skyto
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| beetlekey wrote: |
Hi Volks,
i am a little bit confused about the fabric on the top, some guys told me that is not 1960?
August 1960 up to July 1961, from Chassis No. 3 192 507 up to 4 010 994 ?
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Some guys should just shut up 
The sample sheet is dated 8/60 = Aug. 60 - July 61.
The fabric I sent you is from chassis 3 828 526. Just as in the sample sheet.
I think the source for the misinformation is Himmelservice website, where the later pattern (as in the interior picture below) is presented as being '60-'64. Not true, that's the '62-'63 fabric. |
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beetlekey
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Tadaa,
here we have the gorgeous NOS fabric from Marc and also the one from Sami.
We see the greentone is the same, the small is a little dirty but also ok.
I haven´t got a so good sample like theese.
One stupid problem is that 3 guys want the later style, so i need some more for the berill 60 project. ARE THERE SOME MORE GUYS???
Also for berill 61-63, I think i have to start a new threat.
Marcus
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beetlekey
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Mark,
will you send me also a sample of the blue / turkis fabric.
3 guys jump down, because they want 61 - 63 beryll.
Maybe we can make two colours and have enough ordert meters.
Marcus
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marc80
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Hi Marcus,
Sorry for the late reaction, I was on holiday the last two weeks.
I'll get a piece of fabric from my 61 pastel blue cars front seat and will send it to you.
Marc |
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beetlekey
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Hi Marcus,
Sorry for the late reaction, I was on holiday the last two weeks.
I'll get a piece of fabric from my 61 pastel blue cars front seat and will send it to you.
Marc |
Thanks a lot!
It is a little low with interested guys here in the moment.
But i think for the 60 green fabric we have enough.
When i got your sample, i will talk to the producer.
With the 61 - 63 i have only 3 guys, looks like that noone have a car like that.
Marcus
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laneven28
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Glad I stumbled into this thread out of curiosity. Count me in for the blue/turkis fabric.
I believe it would be a good idea to create a seperate thread for the blue/turkis material as I'm sure there are others like me out there who may be interested, but aren't aware it may be available as the thread title only addresses beryl green cars.
Marcus, how many have expressed interest in blue/turkis?
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beetlekey
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Glad I stumbled into this thread out of curiosity. Count me in for the blue/turkis fabric.
I believe it would be a good idea to create a seperate thread for the blue/turkis material as I'm sure there are others like me out there who may be interested, but aren't aware it may be available as the thread title only addresses beryl green cars.
Marcus, how many have expressed interest in blue/turkis? |
You are the second 
But if the groundcolour ( beige ) is the same it will be no problem to shoot the blue inside. I have to order 50 meters minimum, but what happend with it is not importend. When the sample from Mark arrive i will opend a new threat with a link to this.
Marcus
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