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DaBlackSamba Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2010 Posts: 317 Location: west eugene, or
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:05 am Post subject: LED gauges are done |
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well after searching from one of the internet to the other trying to find a plug n play LED to work in the original gauges, and could find nothing at all, so i found these LED strips at the local autozone
first of all, i did canibalize a set of gauges for this cdonversion, it was from a 1971 squareback parts car that someone had already canabalized the odometer out of it
so on to some pics
we all know how bright the stock gauges are with the incadesent bulbs, and how kinda blah the stock color is
so on to the progress pics
i heavily primered, and painted the insides of the stock cans gloss white to brighten up the already bright LEDS
i used the side firing LEDs i found at autozone, i decided to go with blue in the 28" lenght
had to do some serious trimming for the fuel gauge section
here is what it looks like with the 1971 speedo just set in with all the trim in place
with my 1973 speedo fully installed
sorry for some of the blured pics, my digital camera sucks for dark pics, and i am waiting for the blue LED 194's to show up so i can put one in the tach so that everything matches
what i did for the tach was its an autometer 2300, and pretty much took is all apart including the front bezel, and how i made is fit was took the clear lens from the tach, and the chrome bezel from my extra clock i had, mixed up a little JB weld, and attached it to the fronf of the tach, and shoved it in the hole
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:46 am Post subject: |
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All I did with mine was well I built my own custom gauges for the speedo and tach so the brightness isn't a problem.
As for the fuel gauge I made my own custom globe as I couldn't find a higher wattage in that socket style. I also primed and painted the housing white inside as you did
then I got some VDO brand green colour globe sleeves.
the end result was much brighter and a much greener shade of green.
The advantage of this is the backlight dimmer works as before. with LEDs it does not as they are a voltage dependent devices and depending on their current draw either wont dim or just turn off suddenly at a given point on the rheostat.
The fact that that function is lost would give me the shits.
but yeah nice work, they look good. |
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supaninja Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2010 Posts: 4020 Location: houston
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EatACactus Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Wareham, Mass
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DaBlackSamba Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2010 Posts: 317 Location: west eugene, or
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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the dimmer still works as designed, the only one i have a problem with is the single 194 in the tach, but thats a minor issue
i gave serious thought to what color i could go with, i could have gone wit the white LEDS, and decided to go against it since everyone has done it, so i went with blue since the car was blue, and thought it would be a nice touch... these things are insanely bright, you can even see them in daylight _________________ 1968 VW variant |
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supaninja Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2010 Posts: 4020 Location: houston
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic
Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4030 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Oooooooooo
Me Likey the Blue
i have some i thought about doing that to
but will have to get some Side emiting ones
i have to see if i still have my other set of guages
you did a good job
they look great _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
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Brent Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 1614 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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DaBlackSamba wrote: |
the dimmer still works as designed, the only one i have a problem with is the single 194 in the tach, but thats a minor issue
i gave serious thought to what color i could go with, i could have gone wit the white LEDS, and decided to go against it since everyone has done it, so i went with blue since the car was blue, and thought it would be a nice touch... these things are insanely bright, you can even see them in daylight |
lol I have never seen wite LED backlite on gauges always blue ones.
Eveyone does blue ones here.
My friend did a red/blue combo in his VY as there is provision in the electronics for full PWM colour sweep.
so as his pointers go up the scale on the gauges they slowly go from blue to red and all the shades of purple in between
Apparently one of the computers in the car has this function from factory just never implemented so just a few LEDs and jumpers soldered in and its enabled. |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Yup PWM controller is the only way to do it with LEDs. but half the time the PWM frequency is too low and the flickering annoys the shit out of me.
Many cars and trucks fitted with LED are too low frequency and it flickers like a strobe FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
Same reason why I can't watch TV or old computer monitors which use CRT. |
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supaninja Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2010 Posts: 4020 Location: houston
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Brent Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 1614 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Pardon my ignorance here...
Are any of the bulbs in our fuel gauge reverse polarity? What about the generator light when I have an alternator?
I'm not sure which bulbs should be standard or reverse polarity. _________________ 69 Fastback Build
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Yeti69 Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2010 Posts: 114 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Hi Brent,
all bulbs are standard. The connection inside the black backplate takes care of that. Just use the wiring diagram and standard bulbs and you should be good to go.
The backplate automatically connects some bulbs with permanent (+) others with permanent (-), depending if a sensor or regulator connects the (-) or a switch, like the driving light switch puts the (+) to the bulbs. _________________ 1966 Fastback "The Volksback"
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic
Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4030 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:46 am Post subject: |
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i like blue!!
but white is too bright and the normal green'ish just isnt Crisp enough
Blue is a good night color
Its easier to adjust to the light in a quicker manner
red would be good but i Hate red
even Orange wouldnt be bad
2 cents...
I would like to have a Clear Thru dial on a black back
if i could figure a way to cut out (basically) the numbers and notches
just seal the side and Only the Numbers will light up....MMMmmmmmm _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
Me of Course wrote: |
Extremity is relative to how far your willing to jump |
Ward Cleaver wrote: |
You ever try a pink golf ball, Wally? Why, the wind shear alone on a pink golf ball can take the head off a 90-pound midget at over 300 yards |
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Brent Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 1614 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info.
I've been doing some reading and there's a guy over on Pelican's forums, Etarga, that seems to sell a quality product. When he asked me about reverse polarity, I had no idea.
And he has blue shark! _________________ 69 Fastback Build
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supaninja Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2010 Posts: 4020 Location: houston
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic
Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4030 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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green just doesnt go with my Motif _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
Me of Course wrote: |
Extremity is relative to how far your willing to jump |
Ward Cleaver wrote: |
You ever try a pink golf ball, Wally? Why, the wind shear alone on a pink golf ball can take the head off a 90-pound midget at over 300 yards |
PS4 "NKOGNEATO" |
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