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68notch Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Perth, Western Australia.
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject: Original replica RHD dash, another one! |
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Yes another dash.
In 2008 I picked up a really good dash from the UK and have just had it on the shelf until now.
I had always planned to make a moulded fibreglass dash that could then be covered with vinyl or other material since I was afraid to risk moulding from my original but lately I have been working with silicone faced moulds which are much safer to work with.
I have now decided to make full mould from both sides that will capture top and bottom of the dash including every detail that makes an original dash look like they do. The silicone surface of the mould will replicate the grain and the speaker holes although the holes will only be about 2mm deep. It will look as normal and the holes could be drilled out if needed.
They will be made from polyurethane resins and foam so the dash will appear very original like and may even fool some. The surface is a hard but flexible black and the foam back may be a lighter yellow than stock (maybe I can tint it?).
Below are some pics of the dash that I will mould from and also a sample of the black skin from a test off an old dash. It's very much like original to touch.
The plan is to also use the original plastic ring inserts that are in each gauge hole so I need to collect these so they can be put in place during the casting process.
It's going to take some time but it starts this week with more prep and flanges to be added to the original prior to moulding, I'll post some pics as I go.
If all goes well then I could also consider doing other dashes. Only catch is I need excellent originals to mould from.
I have a small business that specialises in carbon fibre and composite parts. Prepping patterns and making moulds is something I have done a lot of. Working with polyurethanes is a little unfamiliar but so far it looks good and I think I will work it out ok.
The cost may be around $600 each though. There will be a considerable amount of time invested in the mould and it may have a limited life too. Maybe 20 parts maybe 100 parts. I don't know.
_________________ John
68 Aussie notch
2011 Citroen Berlingo
https://www.facebook.com/Fastacraft
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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F**king hell! this is what I'm talking about
I would also like to see some late model dashes What is the early dash shape/size like compared to the late model dash?
Just wondering if your planned repop can be used as a basis to mod into a late dash. Or perhaps one without speaker holes?
If you can make an accurate, durable high quality dash, you would totally own the market.
I would pay 1000! buks without hesitation for a perfect modernized repop. I love how you want to use the plastic rings which makes is even better! |
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chaosisme Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 1256 Location: Orange County, Ca
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Im definitely looking forward to seeing your progress with this. _________________ '65 1500 S [quareback]
'68 FI Sunroof Squareback
'70 Westy
OCT3 - Orange County Type 3's |
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l469 Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2011 Posts: 66 Location: NSW australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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good to see an aussie having a go good onya.
very interested in the progress of this .
best of luck to you |
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l469 Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2011 Posts: 66 Location: NSW australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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vlad01 wrote: |
F**king hell! this is what I'm talking about
I would also like to see some late model dashes What is the early dash shape/size like compared to the late model dash?
Just wondering if your planned repop can be used as a basis to mod into a late dash. Or perhaps one without speaker holes?
If you can make an accurate, durable high quality dash, you would totally own the market.
I would pay 1000! buks without hesitation for a perfect modernized repop. I love how you want to use the plastic rings which makes is even better! |
vlad001 when i go to sell something can you buy it from me ?
offering up more money than a predicted asking price before you have even seen anything way to go.
its very good to see someone doing something about the dash pads. |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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No thank you I only buy quality |
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68notch Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Perth, Western Australia.
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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I forget to mention that I will also be able to make coloured dashes too, pigalle and teak! or any colour you like.
Maybe a $1000 purple one for Vlad
Thinkin I might go for a teak one myself. Savannah beige car, oatmeal carpet, brown seats and door trims. _________________ John
68 Aussie notch
2011 Citroen Berlingo
https://www.facebook.com/Fastacraft
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l469 Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2011 Posts: 66 Location: NSW australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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wow now your showing off top stuff
this is just the most encouraging news on type 3's
parts i have had in a while again good on you for doing this
like already mentioned you will have this market to yourself
so go for it i say well done |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:06 am Post subject: |
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68notch wrote: |
I forget to mention that I will also be able to make coloured dashes too, pigalle and teak! or any colour you like.
Maybe a $1000 purple one for Vlad
Thinkin I might go for a teak one myself. Savannah beige car, oatmeal carpet, brown seats and door trims. |
nah black one please! |
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Matthew Tolbert Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 706 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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im here for the updates _________________ Matthew Tolbert
1958 ragtop
1961 doublecab
1965 Notchback S |
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JDYT3 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I have a 1970 Fastback, so if the dash suits that, then I am in too, depending on the final outcome.
Regards,
Jed in Sydney
1970 Fastback, Sahara (?) Beige known as Fast Fritz |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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70 dash is the same as early isn't it? |
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68notch Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Perth, Western Australia.
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Making some progress with repairing all and any small flaws in the dash. Most are not visible and are just things like the vinyl peeling back along the bottom edge which is under the chrome trim.
Blanked out gauge holes.
Cracks in the speaker that have not come through the top skin. Glued with epoxy.
A little restick of the vinyl.
Some carbon reinforcing below the grab handle.
A really fine crack that has come through in front of the speedo that is the typical flaw in old dashes. This is the worst of any issue with the dash but still so small that I am not actually going to try and fix this. It's barely noticeable and will make the finished part even more authentic
When the dashes are made I am considering adding some fibreglass reinforced polyurethane behind the black skin so the outer skin will essentially be fibre reinforced to resist cracking in future.
These are the plastic rings from the gauges that I would need to collect for re-use in the new ones.
This is the base/box that the pattern(dash) will set up on so that it's stable and straight etc.
Overall the dash is really just hanging in there and it's fragile but on the outside it still looks great. _________________ John
68 Aussie notch
2011 Citroen Berlingo
https://www.facebook.com/Fastacraft
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Matthew Tolbert Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 706 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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nice work!!! _________________ Matthew Tolbert
1958 ragtop
1961 doublecab
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:07 am Post subject: |
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popcorn please! |
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68notch Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Perth, Western Australia.
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:24 am Post subject: |
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In Germany they would have sweet popcorn (with icing sugar) at the cinema.
In Australia they have it salted.
What do you do in the USA?
Dash mould flanges almost done, should be ready to begin moulding the top side later next week.
_________________ John
68 Aussie notch
2011 Citroen Berlingo
https://www.facebook.com/Fastacraft
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Matthew Tolbert Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 706 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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68notch wrote: |
In Germany they would have sweet popcorn (with icing sugar) at the cinema.
In Australia they have it salted.
What do you do in the USA?
Dash mould flanges almost done, should be ready to begin moulding the top side later next week.
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salted and buttered _________________ Matthew Tolbert
1958 ragtop
1961 doublecab
1965 Notchback S |
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DAM Volks Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2004 Posts: 187 Location: Boulder City Nevada
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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any possibility of a LHD dash? This dash looks very promising so far.
As for the popcorn its done way to many ways in the US. salted, buttered, plain. Shoot caramel kettlecorn and funky flavors. Ill take caramel corn please. |
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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Matthew Tolbert wrote: |
68notch wrote: |
In Germany they would have sweet popcorn (with icing sugar) at the cinema.
In Australia they have it salted.
What do you do in the USA?
Dash mould flanges almost done, should be ready to begin moulding the top side later next week.
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Really? I only eat that caramel coated popcorn. The salted popcorn tastes crap
Anyway I had a dream about these dashes last night. They turned out good and I tested one out and helped debug them for the next perfect revision then ended up buying 2 of the new version? I think.
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68notch Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Perth, Western Australia.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:13 am Post subject: |
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JDYT3 wrote: |
Hi,
I have a 1970 Fastback, so if the dash suits that, then I am in too, depending on the final outcome.
Regards,
Jed in Sydney
1970 Fastback, Sahara (?) Beige known as Fast Fritz |
Not sure whether the 70 dash is the same or not even though my first car car was a 70. I think it's either the same or simply has the slotted speaker grill that appears to be added on top so that could easily be bonded onto one of these if you can find a good grill.
Like this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Volkswagen-Type-3-1970-...500wt_1156
emdejong, certainly could do LHD or other dashes assuming the process all goes well.
Nearly ready for moulding. _________________ John
68 Aussie notch
2011 Citroen Berlingo
https://www.facebook.com/Fastacraft
RHD dash pad project http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=475227 |
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