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Skullbag Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2014 Posts: 8 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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This thread still alive? I had the drivers rear vented window seal done at a van specific shop here in Seattle. I had them do it cause it rains here all the time and it was leaking and migrating down behind the table panel (weekender) and there was already some rust. I didn’t have time to try to deal with it myself.... they did the seal and it’s still leaking. It pools on the top of the bottom seal. I can’t locate where from. Not condensation cause it’s only this window. The shop could never replicate the leak prior to replacement. They did not do anything with the seal btw the vent and the glass. I added some silicone to the top and bottom inside and outside of where vent meets glass the other day and still had some leaking... so last night I laid a trail of talcum powder along the bottom seal to see if I could find the spot. It didn’t leak!!! And it rained all night!!! I then sat there with the hose on the window for a while and no leak... wtf... anyone have issues with the seal btw vent and glass? I planned to bring it back to the shop today, but no leak and didn’t want waste time.. my last thought is to do that bedding glaze and new sealant along vent and glass.. if it leaks again.. |
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Skullbag Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2014 Posts: 8 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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Well, leaked again. While out driving. Wonder if the wind is pushing more water under the seal, or there’s body flex that allows more in? No shortage on hills etc in Seattle. I have someone coming to do my windshield on my Jetta and may have him look at it or pop it out and place some glaze in the seal. |
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Commocean Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2019 Posts: 1 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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Is it possible to get the plastic bit of trim that goes between the vent and glass. Has anyone had any success finding one of these? |
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dschaftlein Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2016 Posts: 105
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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Eureka Reading this thread made me realize where the mosquitos might be sneaking in! Is it possible to replace the foam without pulling the glass? |
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clift_d Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2012 Posts: 265 Location: Hackney innit, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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Commocean wrote: |
Is it possible to get the plastic bit of trim that goes between the vent and glass. Has anyone had any success finding one of these? |
Brickwerks in the U.K. have the seals that go in the joint between the plastic vents and the glass section here. _________________ 1988 LHD T25 1.6TD Westfalia Club Joker syncro |
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Luckyphil Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2011 Posts: 156 Location: Australia
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bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4349 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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Nobody seems to be addressing the outside portion of this vent box. I can tell that mine used to have some kind of foam tucked in too, but I have not seen any new enough to still have it to look at. Ideas? _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7919 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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bobbyblack wrote: |
Nobody seems to be addressing the outside portion of this vent box. I can tell that mine used to have some kind of foam tucked in too, but I have not seen any new enough to still have it to look at. Ideas? |
The post above yours has a link showing how to replace the vent filter.
The original stuff looked like black aquarium filter sponge, but a lot of folks have used foam to replace it. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
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bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4349 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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Kamz,
Ya, followed all the links I could find this time around as well, and it seems that the full length slots on the inside are the ones being addressed by the threads.
What I am seeing, way inside the box, are several crimp like sections where there is a tiny bit of spongy stuff, I believe its the leftover bit of stuff that had originally been in the outside of the vent box.
Again, I have never seen a new-ish or well kept vent box, so I may be wrong. It just seems as if there could be a bit of stuff tucked in those pinch spots on the side with only 1/2 the length having the vent holes. The rubber flopper would then be up and behind this (?imaginary?) filter.
Anyway, I have not found any threads dealing with how to keep bugs out of the outside portion. Thought I would toss it into the mix.
Later, I will get some pic's and post, if I can get my camera to focus on the pinch locations I am mentioning. (I installed one side so far, but still have the DS glass/vent to install on Flossie)
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7919 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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bobbyblack wrote: |
Ya, followed all the links I could find this time around as well, and it seems that the full length slots on the inside are the ones being addressed by the threads. |
There's at least one that addresses the outside (can't find it at the moment), but it doesn't really matter because both sides are the same: filter sponge. There was a bit left in mine when I did a replacement of the exterior half... I haven't touched the interior.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6897454#6897454 _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
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bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4349 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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It looks just the same as the inside crumbs.. here are a few pics
Clearly, there are a few considerations to keep in mind. You can see that the rubber flap strikes the outside casing. It needs unrestricted articulation. So, the filter needs to not be inserted under the retainer the full length, as you can see it would cause restrictions if so. Also, to create a full coverage there will need to be a few layers, I'll probably find some adhesive and make a pocket in a few layers to go around the retainer on both sides to grab it. _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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Franklinstower Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 1895 Location: PNW
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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I thought I would add to this too. Foam was crumbled or non existent. I found a shop Vac cover in my garage... Why not? Looks the same, right length when cut open.
I just fished it through with some picture wire and used a popsicle stick to help push. I found starting in the middle was easiest and work to the ends. 1 grateful dead song later, they were both done!
_________________ '89 Westy - EJ25/22 Frank 4.44 5mt
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puchfinnland Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2005 Posts: 279 Location: Deale Maryland
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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Showing that white vehicle in background is considered Car Porn.
be careful what you post here! _________________ ABYC marine master technician , EX European auto technician, new business- EASTCOASTWEST , custom work on campers, only systems, no mechanical |
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Franklinstower Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 1895 Location: PNW
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Windows with plastic vents |
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Ok, so I got my windows back from tinting and I am about to put new seals on the rear vented windows. I found the vents had a dab of silicone on the top and bottom and as I recall, there was about an inch on the glass too at the seams. I am wondering if the silicone was for sealing or to hold the vent rubber seals in place?
Can anyone provide insight? a dab of new silicone, or go ala-natural sans silicone?
_________________ '89 Westy - EJ25/22 Frank 4.44 5mt
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