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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: Bedliner thoughts Reply with quote

Okay, after reading all the posts about people blacking out westies I am all in for this.

I am pretty dead set on using the raptor 2-part system and spraying it on with a gun(I want black even though raptor can be tinted any color) My westy is white and I think the black looks killer.


I want to do the lower section plus a bedliner bra like heftysmurf did.
Anyone have thoughts if this is going to look bad on a white westy? I am having issues with the transition from the nose to the window pillar and should I do this before I reinstall my windshield?


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Check this out just got it done Line-X all around and the entire front... New GoWesty bumpers tooo Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After seeing this in the gallery....ugh im thinking i might just do the lower section.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I've got the gun with the Raptor kit, I did not use it. I just paint it on with a brush and then roll over with a USED paint roller. A new roller will leave too much hair on the surface. The finished texture is very acceptable. It is not as messy as spraying it on. The only draw back is the liner is not that thick. Whatever you choose to do, make sure you mask to the bottom of the " valley " on the side so it will not be that visible when your masking line is not straight. Hope you know what I mean.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the picture of my Westy.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a close-up.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what product did you use in that pic?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

purplepeopleeater wrote:
what product did you use in that pic?


U-Pol Raptor. From TCP Global

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Raptor-SPRAY-BLACK-...2eb6d87bb3
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevey88 wrote:
purplepeopleeater wrote:
what product did you use in that pic?


U-Pol Raptor. From TCP Global

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Raptor-SPRAY-BLACK-...2eb6d87bb3



Rats $110!!, I just bought mine for 150....oh well.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read this from GoWesty if you havent already, and make note of how they masked the front fender flare and the door. They give a very good description. Its these little details that can make or break the look. When i did mine I mocked it up doth way s with tape and it definitly looks better thier way.

http://www.gowesty.com/library_article.php?id=845
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it their way too and it looks good.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the close up nose shot of the one Vanagon pictured, and saw the popping off Raptor.

This is the end result of poor surface preporation.

Sand the heck outa whatever your applying the bedliner to--don't be afraid to scratch the paint up good.
I'm ot talikng 220, or 320.
Hit it with minimum 180, a quick blast over with a DA and some 80 would be excellet for adhesion.

Don't be bashfull with the sanding if you want the bedliner to stick.

If the paint don't shine anymore, it's ready to cover with the bedliner.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I like that, I was trying to figure out some sort of lower treatment, this looks like the deal.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I planned on using 180 grit and sanding till dull then cleanup with wax remover...from a foot up on the whole van was sand blasted, POR15 then Epoxy primed...so its gunna be stinkin hard to sand.

I think I have myself talked in to doing the nose too....if I parked in the crappy seasons I woudnt do it but I drive all the time anywhere and rock chips then rust spots will piss me off after all this work.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The raptor stuff works really well, but it takes a week or two to FULLY harden, so just go easy on it the first week or so. The hardest part about the project is deciding where to end your lines, and where to transition around corners, where to stop, etc. Go Westy shows how they do it, I did it slightly differently and everyone has their opinion, so just experiment with masking tape and see what works for you.

I'm not a huge fan of spraying the nose with bed liner but it is durable so if you have lots of rock chips, this may be the way to go.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no rock chips now, only fresh paint.

I am going to do the lower part like gowesty does, for sure.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After looking I found this, I really like how the front flows alot better this way...and my front windsheild is out so it would be cake.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the (perceived, at least) durability that this would add to my vans, but wonder what it would take to remove this stuff to repair future body damage, etc. Has anybody tried to remove spray-on bedliner after it has dried? A quick search returns answers like freezing with liquid nitrogen, sandblasting, and that it can't be removed at all.

How different is the bedliner material from the thick stuff that OEMs put on lower panels?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had my entire van covered in Line X. I like it alot...... never have to worry about scratches. It's a function over fashion thing..... but with fashion. It added some extra weight...... but with a new Tencent or GW Engine that should help with that Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Line-X van! Now it's ding and scratch PROOF for life! (albeit a bit heavier...)

Line-X is well worth the $ (biased opinion from an ex-Line-X employee)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<<I planned on using 180 grit and sanding till dull then cleanup with wax remover...from a foot up on the whole van was sand blasted, POR15 then Epoxy primed...so its gunna be stinkin hard to sand.>>

Epoxy prime--forget the POR stuff.
The right way to do work with this stuff is apply whatever your going to lay on top of it while it's still wet.
I don't know how the epoxy is going to work with the wet POR miracle in a can.
It might make the epoxy as hard as a brick--I'd skip this move.
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