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Vanagon Nut
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ya I was just thinking "why create heat, under a fridge?"
But then if it's cold enough for the heater, the fridge likely won't be affected much.
Or maybe the Propex case doesn't get that hot?
Neil.
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squeegee_boy
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| Vanagon Nut wrote: |
Or maybe the Propex case doesn't get that hot?
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It doesn't really get hot. It's pretty good about send the heat out the outlet. My HS2800 is between the front seats under an custom built console, and has about 1/16" space to top of the console.. The wood of the console doesn't even get warm.
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madspaniard
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Write Up |
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| Vanagon Nut wrote: |
So Beetsport put his Propex in RH cabinet below the bottom shelf?
Seems to me that even if one had to raise that shelf a couple inches, it would be good use of that space.
Or am I barking up the "design" tree the wrong way? 
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I don't remember the details of Beetsport's install, what I meant above was that the hot air outlet was on the right side of the fridge cabinet. Actually I think he installed the Propex HS 2800 under the fridge but encroaching into the cubby space to the left.
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Vanagon Nut
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Thanks guys.
Yah in hindsight, guess that in designing that heater, Propex would take into account case heat, proximity to flammables etc.
Am thinking of putting in another LP tank and Propex at some point.
Neil.
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WestyDreamer
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Question about Mounting Propex under Fridge?
What are you guys doing with the current outside Vent that was used for the Propane Fridge? Can't afford to seal it shut or a repaint. Also never know how this elect Truck Fridge stuff will fair in the long run?
Can I use that opening for either an air intake or Exhaust for the Propex..
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Can it be used for Both?
My thoughts were that if I used the current Vent for the propex exhaust pipe i could recoop some additional radiant heat before exiting the Van? I was thinking of maybe using a small computer fan blowing across the exhaust pipe would provide additional heat?
I Thought that I remembered seeing a post awhile back, where someone used the existing Vent Flue?
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Guys.. Any suggestions if I can use the existing Fridge Vent Flue for the exhaust. Was considering using it for the exhaust and pulling fresh air from below the Van.
Thoughts or Concerns. Do's or Don'ts 
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Landsailer
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I don't know if you have seen the thread on here where someone did use the flue hole for both intake and exhaust, but it's been done. But it sounds like you are using a truckfridge? If so, I don't think you have the room to install the truckfridge and use the flue vent. The truckfridge isn't as wide as the exiting hole (TF49), but it's deeper than the propane fridge. It goes all the way back. But, where there is $$$, there is a way.
By the by, the guy who did the flue exhaust eliminated his fridge and made a cabinet with vent pipe running through it IIRC. |
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madspaniard
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Guys.. Any suggestions if I can use the existing Fridge Vent Flue for the exhaust. Was considering using it for the exhaust and pulling fresh air from below the Van.
Thoughts or Concerns. Do's or Don'ts
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I don't think you have room to do this and keep the truckfridge in place. See pic below showing the location of the intake and exhaust for the Propex. They are not located at the end of the unit and the pipes stick out of the unit. No matter how you orientate the Propoex under the fridge, you will not have roon to run the exhaust hose to the flue vent. The fridge is pressed against the van's metal panel barely fitting there. Some room to the sides but not much.
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pnwkayaker
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Madspaniard,
do you know the distance between the blue line and the front edge of the cabinet? It looks to me that without it, you cannot position the Propex in the correct location (cannot see the frame rail from inside the cabinet). Am I missing something?
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singler3360
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Madspaniard,
do you know the distance between the blue line and the front edge of the cabinet? It looks to me that without it, you cannot position the Propex in the correct location (cannot see the frame rail from inside the cabinet). Am I missing something? |
PNWKayaker, from earlier in this thread:
From the edge of the cabinet floor, it was 8 1/8" to the middle of the exhaust outlet hole. I should have measured 8 3/16" for a little more wiggle room. This was the only part of the template alignment that wasn't clear to me in MadSpaniard and Racerrojo's pics. |
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pnwkayaker
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Thanks! (I missed that somehow in this thread), I think I just need to allocate a weekend to move the propex, i have all the measurements.
One last question, did you guys remove the propane tank when doing the installation (and then reinstall it)? i remember when I had to remove it several years ago for some R&R that it was a truly pain
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madspaniard
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One last question, did you guys remove the propane tank when doing the installation (and then reinstall it)? i remember when I had to remove it several years ago for some R&R that it was a truly pain |
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No need to remove the tank. Just make sure you turn it off and check you don't have any leaks before you drill holes for the intake and exhaust.
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Jedi
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I have my Propex under my Truckfridge and I can assure you there is no need for heat concern  I suppose having one before you make that assumption could help you to understand. These heaters are super efficient and do a great job of heating up a Vanagon even in the coldest conditions.The air tube it self gets more hot than the heater unit. I was thinking of thermal wrapping mine for keeping heat loss down. The location under the fridge is the best place bar none to put it. You do not loose any storage in another location--under the seat--closet--out in the open hiding under a box and sticking out like a little child trying to play hide and seek by just covering their eyes  How cute people  I just feel tucking it away out of site in the middle of the van makes the most sense for us If you would like pics of my instal or need any advice on how to make it work I am open to help. Here are some shots of how nice it is to run the intake and exhaust tubes that can be ran under the rocker and intake under center tucked up high.
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Westydreamer was looking for some info about running the propex intake and exhaust through the original fridge vent.
Heres my post on that trick. Only thing though is I deleted the fridge altogether in favor of a porta-potty and a electric fridge/freezer.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=330026&highlight=propex
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I'm anticipating putting a Propex under my TF65 later this year. In the meantime my current project is replacing the water line between my sink/faucet and the fresh water tank. From all of my reading and looking at the pictures, I haven't been able to determine whether I can run the water line along the floor at the back of the cabinet as it currently is routed, or if I need to come up with alternate routing. Can anyone with experience please comment?
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madspaniard
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My water line runs in the same stock position it was before installing my fridge, not a TF65 though
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singler3360
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I'm anticipating putting a Propex under my TF65 later this year. In the meantime my current project is replacing the water line between my sink/faucet and the fresh water tank. From all of my reading and looking at the pictures, I haven't been able to determine whether I can run the water line along the floor at the back of the cabinet as it currently is routed, or if I need to come up with alternate routing. Can anyone with experience please comment?
Thanks!
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I just PM'd CJ who I think just installed a Propex below a brand new TF65. Maybe he will post a response. |
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Rob, you are persuasive . . .
The water lines are no problemo with a TF 65.
They can be slightly re-routed to rest on top of the "sill" marked in green in the image below. The fridge rests against this sill, leaving a few inches on top of it to run the water line.
in red: actual water line
in green: water line location after TF 65 install
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advantageaction
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Thanks for the quick responses!
Is there a reason why folks locate the Propex on the left side of the open space as opposed to the right? Looking at the photos it appears as if the propane tank mounting bracket may be in the way but otherwise can't see a reason.
I ask this as I have a power converter as many do under there as well and the wires coming out of it to my batteries under the seat are pretty skookum and would require running up and through the wall as well as opposed to along the floor... it would be a shorter run if the cable were along the floor and coming from the left side of the cabinet.
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madspaniard
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In my case it was easier on the left side. The right side sits on top of my propane tank regulator. I don't have have the stock propane set up, I have two stock propane tanks with an automatic change-over regulator.
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