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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey All, as an update. Tom has sold me this car! I flew up to the Bay Area met up with some VW buddies and we drove over to Sacramento to pick it up late September. I drove the car from Tom's place over to the bay area where we gave it a good once over. We changed the oil, adjusted the valves, set the timing etc... etc... Then I drove it 350 miles home to Thousand Oaks, CA.

I scored some parts for it: An original radio from Jacin Ferreira (still need the wrap around), a correct light grey shift knob. I got a red dot heater knob from Bert3 as well as a rebuilt carb (The other one started developing problems right before the drive home). I also got the factory birth cert and apparently, this car was an original German Domestic car! So that means, at some point I'm going to have to replace the SB12s on the thing and find me a nice set of Euro Headlights, and replace the side markers with the clear/red combo.

Presently, I'm driving the car daily to work and back. What a joy it is. This is my first type 3 and man these cars are like the best of driving a VW and a real car at the same time!

Just wanted to update this thread and have somewhere to post progress as I slowly get this thing back to og condition. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet, keep it stock Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Chris, glad you're having fun with it. I really had mixed emotions about selling it, but I'm glad it went to a good home. So cool to find that it was a domestic market car - I always wondered about that. I knew it had been in the US since at least the 1970s, but before that it was a mystery. Keep us updated on your progress.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
Sweet, keep it stock Wink


Keepin' it stock.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey Chris, glad you're having fun with it. I really had mixed emotions about selling it, but I'm glad it went to a good home. So cool to find that it was a domestic market car - I always wondered about that. I knew it had been in the US since at least the 1970s, but before that it was a mystery. Keep us updated on your progress.


I was surprised! I always thought Canada, since it had the amber side markers and red tail lights, so those were changed at some point. Also the birth cert says it came from the factory with whitewalls! What would be the appropriate whitewalls, wide whites? Just curious in case I get em.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey Chris, glad you're having fun with it. I really had mixed emotions about selling it, but I'm glad it went to a good home. So cool to find that it was a domestic market car - I always wondered about that. I knew it had been in the US since at least the 1970s, but before that it was a mystery. Keep us updated on your progress.


I was surprised! I always thought Canada, since it had the amber side markers and red tail lights, so those were changed at some point. Also the birth cert says it came from the factory with whitewalls! What would be the appropriate whitewalls, wide whites? Just curious in case I get em.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chris Paterson wrote:
///Mink wrote:
Hey Chris, glad you're having fun with it. I really had mixed emotions about selling it, but I'm glad it went to a good home. So cool to find that it was a domestic market car - I always wondered about that. I knew it had been in the US since at least the 1970s, but before that it was a mystery. Keep us updated on your progress.


I was surprised! I always thought Canada, since it had the amber side markers and red tail lights, so those were changed at some point. Also the birth cert says it came from the factory with whitewalls! What would be the appropriate whitewalls, wide whites? Just curious in case I get em.


3/4" Whitewalls


Thanks GizmoBob! By the way did you get my email about the interior?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an update, I spent a little money on the notch this last month. I got the correct non-sealed beam headlights. A pair of NOS amber topped flat tail lenses. a NOS rear view mirror and a pair of NOS sun visors.

Also I had a little mishap with the carburetor right before we went on a one week vacation. While on the freeway (I think) one of the screws in the bowl popped out and I instantly lost power. I was about a mile from home and managed to limp it home at no more than 5 miles per hour. When I got it home I parked it in front of the garage. We live in a condo complex and you really aren't supposed to park in front of the garage, so before the trip I pushed it in the garage after moving my bus over and cleaning up a bit. After I did that I came inside and I started to smell gas inside the house. I went out to see if it was leaking and I just couldn't see anything and didn't have time to figure it out because we were leaving the next morning at 6a. So I figured it was just a little residual and figured it would dissipate.

We skipped town and when we landed I got a call from the neighbor telling me that the fire department had my garage open! They had been called because the gas fumes were permeating the building and one of the neighbors called. I was over 1000 miles away so I called my dad to come over and try and figure out what was going on. He couldn't find an obvious leak so he syphoned all the gas out of the tank, a skill he learned as a teenager in the 70's.

I came home and decided to go through all of the fuel lines and gas tank and make sure everything was in order. I found the screw that had fallen out of the carb and I loctite'd it in with the others. The car had 1/4" rubber lines from the gas tank to the chassis line and 1/4" line from the chassis to the firewall and no fuel filter. I pulled all those lines and put in the good German stuff. Then, I took the gas tank down to the powder coater, had it blasted and powder coated and then I started on the Por15 gas tank sealer stuff.

When I pulled the gas tank, I noticed that it was the incorrect driver side tierod end (non angled) and the boot is all mangled. So I bought an NOS set and will install them shortly. I'll post some pictures soon.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris - was that the carb that came with the car or the one you installed after you bought it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chris - was that the carb that came with the car or the one you installed after you bought it?


It's the one I got from Bert3. Second time a screw fell out of the bowl. I took your carb off because the choke stopped working when we were tuning the car in the bay area. I left it there as collateral and borrowed Joe's NOS carb (nice guy I know), I orded the one from Bert3 and when it got here I put it on and sent Joe's back to him. He's sending me back the one that was on the car. The other thing about this carb is the mixture screw does nothing :-/ The choke works good though Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Paterson wrote:
///Mink wrote:
Hey Chris, glad you're having fun with it. I really had mixed emotions about selling it, but I'm glad it went to a good home. So cool to find that it was a domestic market car - I always wondered about that. I knew it had been in the US since at least the 1970s, but before that it was a mystery. Keep us updated on your progress.


I was surprised! I always thought Canada, since it had the amber side markers and red tail lights, so those were changed at some point. Also the birth cert says it came from the factory with whitewalls! What would be the appropriate whitewalls, wide whites? Just curious in case I get em.


These are the original tires on my 65' black wheels with whitewall. There a 400 bias ply, I'll have to doublecheck the size when I get home. I have 3 of there but 1 is not very good the 2 are in good shape. Mine is an s and like most iv seen in Canada there is no side markers.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Chris I'm not sure if you have done this but PLEASE PLEASE put safty wire on all of the fuel line clamps.. Joe put some on the hoses to the carb but not on the fuel pump

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And I never checked them .....I'm SOOOOOO THANKFUL I had my fire extinguisher under the front seat....but it was still SCARY AS HELL and I almost lost the black car two weeks ago
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Hey Chris I'm not sure if you have done this but PLEASE PLEASE put safty wire on all of the clamps.. Joe put some on the hoses to the carb but not on the fuel pump


And I never checked them .....I'm SOOOOOO THANKFUL I had my fire extinguisher under the front seat....but it was still SCARY AS HELL and I almost lost the black car two weeks ago


Joe told me about this, I haven't done it yet because I've been working on getting the gas tank sealed up. But I will! It's a good reminder.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chris - was that the carb that came with the car or the one you installed after you bought it?


It's the one I got from Bert3. Second time a screw fell out of the bowl.


Wow, well here's a coincidence for you - less than a week before you got the car from me, the exact same thing happened with the carb that was on it (one of the brass plugs on the bottom fell out). An also coincidentally, I was about a mile from home and barely limped it back. I parked it on a downhill slope so maybe that's why I didn't have the over flow you did. Wow.
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///Mink wrote:
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///Mink wrote:
Chris - was that the carb that came with the car or the one you installed after you bought it?


It's the one I got from Bert3. Second time a screw fell out of the bowl.


Wow, well here's a coincidence for you - less than a week before you got the car from me, the exact same thing happened with the carb that was on it (one of the brass plugs on the bottom fell out). An also coincidentally, I was about a mile from home and barely limped it back. I parked it on a downhill slope so maybe that's why I didn't have the over flow you did. Wow.


Wow... I'm still not sure if that is the entire reason why the car leaked so much fuel. I had it parked outside in front my garage for more than 24 hours and then rolled it in. The carb was dry at that point. That's why I'm going through all the fuel lines. The fuel line from the tank to the chassis was 1/4" rubber and I grabbed the hose clamp to see if it was flat-head or philips when I grabbed it, it just pulled off. So it could have been leaking from there too... I don't know. When I got back from vacation it was long since dry, so it makes it somewhat impossible to track down the leak without adding more gas to it. Which I don't want to do because I don't want to fume out my neighbors again. My wife baked some apology scones and we had to walk around to each neighbor and apologize, lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya it was the WORST FEELING ever.... it took me a few days to get over the SICK FEELING I had when I looked under the car and saw it on FIRE Im lucky it could have been MUCH MUCH WORSE
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I pulled all those lines and put in the good German stuff.


only problem with the "good German" 30R7 hose is that it is NOT rated for todays gas blends that WILL deteriorate german braided hose in 6 months to a year.

Gates barricade is one that is rated properly:
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So as an update... The engine on this car started a pretty bad rod knocking sound. It was spewing out a huge cloud of blueish smoke on startup (oil). So to do the car right, I had Brother's Machine Shop build me a brand new 1600cc single port motor, in a new case. I paid a little extra to have it balanced with the new clutch. Half the tin was powdercoated and the other half wasn't so I did a powder coat run to finish off the other half of the tin.

Since I was doing the engine, the tranny had always been kinda bad in the car. It would pop out of first if I accelerated too hard. I had Rancho build me a new one.

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And new rear brakes. (not pinwheel, 64+)
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I've managed to collect the correct headlights, side markers and rear flats:
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great Chris! I love the attention to detail. I've always admired that car and you are doing it justice. Well done
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Looks great Chris! I love the attention to detail. I've always admired that car and you are doing it justice. Well done


Thanks Soul, it was good to meet you at the Classic! I enjoyed your car a lot! Maybe you can get on Gizmo Bob about the interior for me Wink I'd really like to get the seat covers and door panels for her.

Congrats on your feature in Hot VWs too!
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