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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

If there were +-300k Ghias made any stats on how many still exist?

I imagine that in a perfect world out of whatever is left out there every year some get restored others lost forever, meaning that every year that passes we have less Ghias in need of restoration. I'm sure there are still tons of them out there, but theoretically a long way down the road we could come to a day where junk yard or long forgotten barn ghias will cease to exist with only perfectly restored cars left. Now what kind of a world would that be?! Wink

So any data or guess on how many Ghias still exist today?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actual production is over 500,000 when you count Coupes, Cabrios and RHD versions. Even assuming just 10% are left (restored, on the road or in storage/barns/fields - not crushed), I'd guess 50,000 worldwide. Probably 15-20 thousand are road-worthy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I"ve got 2 right now but when I am finished only one will roll out onto the highways, the other? a pile of cut up scrap and spare parts.

I killed a 66 back in 75.

So, I've owned 4 total and have or will have killed two of them. I alone have wiped 50% of the Ghias that have crossed my path off the face of the earth!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You Ghia Killer you! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I killed my 57 and im gonna kill a 59 soon to save the dead 57
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used transplants from a 62 and a 63 to save the life of my '66. That and a couple of stem cells grown to become a headlight bucket with surround. Surgery was only possible with willing donors and a belief in "Reinkarmantion" Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

JerseyGhia wrote:
... So any data or guess on how many Ghias still exist today? ...

I have only information about the registered Karmann Ghias in Germany.
Here is the last published report from the year 2008:

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As you see, the numbers of cars are sinking permanently from year to year ... Crying or Very sad But therefore the prices are raising. Razz

If every country all over the world would have such kind of statistcs, we could add them all together ... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I wonder if the 1:1 to 2:1 ratio of Ghias sacrificed to Ghias restored that seems to be showing up in this thread is observable everywhere. That would certainly draw down the number of Ghias that are left in a hurry.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, interesting. I better get my Ghia before I get priced out!
Only 2600 in Germany, I guess it didnt sell that much there huh?

I can see a Hollywood movie now where some maniac goes around "killing" Ghias to raise the price of his collection! Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerseyGhia wrote:
... Only 2600 in Germany ...

Please note, that we had only 201 registered type 34 in the year 2008 in Germany - but we had 154 as a new world record on the event "50 years Karmann Ghia type 34" a few weeks ago Exclamation

I think this is a very good result. Rolling Eyes ... although some of them came from abroad. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting to see how the numbers in Germany dropped.

In 1988 to 2007 for type 14 with a total af 4.452 en for the type 34 a total of 553.

I was wondering how the TUV in Germany has influence in this figure.
When was the German TUV introduced?

Can you help us Wolfgang?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Gerard,
KG1965 wrote:
... When was the German TUV introduced? ...

the German "TUEV" was founded in 1872 for testing the safety of steam boilers.

Cars have to be checked by "TUEV" in Germany since 1961.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolfgang klinkert wrote:
Hello Gerard,
KG1965 wrote:
... When was the German TUV introduced? ...

the German "TUEV" was founded in 1872 for testing the safety of steam boilers.

Cars have to be checked by "TUEV" in Germany since 1961.


Thanks Wolfgang !

In the Netherlands the APK (MOT / TUEV) was introduced in 1980 (only 30 years ago) In this year a lot of cars where crushed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

I have have owned approx 20 of these ghias. Two 62 verts and the rest coupes. I have restored and sold most of them. I am down to two 67's, and a 68 that I am currently restoring. I have cut up: two 74's, a 66 vert, a 70 coupe, a 67 coupe. I have crashed and destroyed a 67 and a 59. My friend had their barn fall on a 58. They are getting rarer. Look what happened to 356 prices. I had a 62 356 coupe that I sold for $ 3200 and thought I had scored. And then the 21 window rag top bus I bought for$250 and sold for $350. Times change but prices change faster.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

was looking for a web site I've seen before for Australia, but came across this for the uk

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_karmann_ghia
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

Here in Belgium ghia's are a rare thing.
The last approx 10 years I remember seeing 2 on the road.
Or people keep them in their garage??
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

simon varley wrote:
was looking for a web site I've seen before for Australia, but came across this for the uk

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_karmann_ghia


That says 784 on the road in 2019 whilst there were 15000 Morris Minors here in the UK.

If I see a couple of Moggies in a month that will give you some sort of idea how rare it is to see a Karmann Ghia on the road. I don't think I've ever seen a Karmann Ghia I don't know, on the road.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

There is another ghia coupe in the next vilage to me.
Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

Ant B wrote:
There is another ghia coupe in the next vilage to me.
Very Happy


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There's one in the same village to me. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: How many Ghias are still out there? Reply with quote

my next door neibhour has an early bay window camper and a beetle.
five houses down has a 15 window split screen bus.
there is another bay window camper about half mile away.

he he he

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