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BillWYellowstone
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:17 pm    Post subject: Weight? What does yours weigh? Reply with quote

According to my title, my westy is 3522 lbs. I really wonder what it weighs, obviously a stop by a CAT scale will solve my question, but figure someone might already know what the rig would weigh.

Was the 3522 before conversion? Before loading up with all our stuff? My expectation was after conversion, with fluids.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is about 5200 with me and the gear that lives in there full time.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an interesting link that gives actual curb weights:

http://www.roadhaus.com/tires/load.html
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My tintop GL 7 passenger van weighs 3480 lbs, my Poptop Westy Weekender weighs 3900 lbs, and my mom's full Westy with AT weighed in at 4450 lbs.

With Dixie loaded up for a bluegrass festival weekend we usually weigh about 4500 lbs with the two of us aboard and the guitars, the double bass, the food and water, the beverage cooler and the rest of the stuff! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

went though truck scales after camping trip scales said 4450lbs. 85 westy auto trans and tiico
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am coming in at 6000lbs at the scales it makes it kinda hard to push.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

86 syncro westy with subaru 2.2, with me and my surf gear, 4750 lbs

87 syncro sesty with 2.5 AEL TDi, 2300 front axle 2700 rear axle = 5000 lbs, again with me in it and my surf gear.

if you go to the trouble to use a truck scale, I would be interested in your front and rear axle weights
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its no trouble to use a truck scale, they are right on the highway. I just drop in when the sign says 'Closed'.

Westy Weekender, 2.1 WBX and 4 speed with me up front and a bunch of tools etc:
Front - 2134 lbs
Rear - 2036 lbs

Westy Weekender, 2.1 WBX and 4 speed with the two of us on our way to a weekend festival with instruments, food and camping gear:
Front - 2400 lbs
Rear - 2060 lbs

I'll be interested to see what difference there is with the 2.5 Subaru engine and 5 speed but we haven't passed a closed scale yet! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our '88 Westy with Subaru EJ22, fully loaded for camping, weighs in at 2100 kg (4630 lbs) with two people on board.

We can fit all four wheels at once on the local truck scales...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full fuel, full camping gear, full h2o and two adults and we come in at 4700#

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

> Front - 2400 lbs
> Rear - 2060 lbs

Thats unusual, a 54% front, 46 %rear split

I have the same split, reversed, 46%front 54% rear,

If I put 10 psi more on the heavy rear axle tires they come up to the same height, axle to ground on a tape measure, as the front axle tires..
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon_slider wrote:
> Front - 2400 lbs
> Rear - 2060 lbs

Thats unusual, a 54% front, 46 %rear split


Not unusual at all, its how they were built. You'll notice that if you take the two adults out of the front seats (200 + 140) the weight distribution is 50/50.
All the two wheel drive vans I've put over the scales show the same forward weight bias: its why they *SUCK* in the snow or on any slippery surface. My passenger van is even more biased without the closet and upper rear storage.

Your Syncros have the gas tank over the rear wheels, not to mention a heavier transaxle. I'm betting that the 2.2 is a lot less rear heavy than the TDI - there's a 250 lb weight difference there.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At last check, my 85 Westy sat at an even 5000lbs. This is with a 1.8T conversion, big wheels and tires, full tank, a full load of stuff, and a crap load of add-ons and do-dads. I ain't no featherweight either.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.roadhaus.com/tires/guideline.html

2WD Vanagon or Camper
GVWR 5160 lbs
GAWR Front 2646 lbs = 48% front
GAWR Rear 2866 lbs = 52% rear

4WD Syncro Vanagon or Camper
GVWR 5512 lbs
GAWR Front 2866 lbs = 49% front
GAWR Rear 3042 lbs = 51% rear
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon_slider wrote:
http://www.roadhaus.com/tires/guideline.html

2WD Vanagon or Camper
GVWR 5160 lbs
GAWR Front 2646 lbs = 48% front
GAWR Rear 2866 lbs = 52% rear

4WD Syncro Vanagon or Camper
GVWR 5512 lbs
GAWR Front 2866 lbs = 49% front
GAWR Rear 3042 lbs = 51% rear


That;s maximum load Jon, not unladen weight, and has no relevance to the subject at hand.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another couple of posts on the subject:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=362549

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=240065

I've weighed in at anywhere between 5000-6200 lbs when packed for a trip with gear and passengers.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

> has no relevance to the subject at hand

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3460# round town--add 400# for me and my gear for the sequoias.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon_slider wrote:
> has no relevance to the subject at hand

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Umm, that's what I was trying to say! An empty 3/4 ton pickup truck with driver has the majority of its weight on the front wheels, whereas fully loaded it is the rear which is carrying most of the weight. This has no relevance to the weight distribution of my Vanagons as posted.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolled over a scale today. 2WD Wolfsburg automatic with about 50lbs of stuff in it and my 180lb carcass weighed 3620. So, 3390 curb weight. That was low on fuel, too. For reference, I pulled the A/C out of mine a while ago - all overhead ducts and the compressor.
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