Installing a Type 1(upright cooling)engine into a Type 4 72+ FAQ

Robert Givler · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:57 am Post subject:

Thanks for the reply. I think I mispoke, what I meant to ask is will the Type IV support bar be a bolt in application or will we need to make brackets?

Zebedee · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:08 pm Post subject:

Heres a comparison of the different mounting bars:

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The late 1600 type1 end mounts use the same bolt holes as the type4 bar does on the chassis rail.

My '73 westy was originally 1700 type4 powered but the previous owner blew it up so fitted a 1600 type1 instead.
He used the centre of the early style moustache bar with the ends cut off and flat and box section steel to mate it to the type4 end hangers on the chassis rails meanings the engine is solid mounted. Sad

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busdaddy · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:17 pm Post subject:

aleshoppes · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:47 pm Post subject: 40 Horse In a 69 Bay

I believe this to be the closest associated thread to place my question. I recently purchased a 69 Bay Camper. Then engine (not installed) that came with the bus, I am told is a 40 Horse 6 Volt. My question is simple and yet probably very complicated at the same time, or maybe not - I leave that to you all.

Can I make this engine run my 69 bus. It may also be important to mention I live in S. Florida so no hills of any kind, if that matters.

My apologies if this has been posted in the wrong area. I am also available for any and all questions about this one.

aeromech · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: 40 Horse In a 69 Bay

kampn · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:17 am Post subject: in classifieds

hard to fine engine hanger in the classifieds

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gleason · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:34 am Post subject:

Hard to find?? Somebody found it! Gone already!

aeromech · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:35 am Post subject:

It was me
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gleason · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:54 am Post subject:

With your background I'm assuming that you will be duplicating these and have them for sale also soon, right? Cool

aeromech · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:57 am Post subject:

gleason · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject:

Well, still trying to see if my old 2.0L can be saved after the fire of my 77 Westy, Crying or Very sad

then I would put it in the 74 Kombi I have. It's got a 1600 in but they never put a rear mount in!
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Not sure how long this will take and I'm just getting desperate to do something soon!! Shocked

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aeromech · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:58 pm Post subject:

Seriously, you think something ca be saved in that fire?
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gleason · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:57 pm Post subject:

looks like the tin did a good job of protecting the engine. Melted the cooling housing and fan. Hoping so. I'll I can do is hope for the best. Pulling it this week to see what I have.

Manfred58sc · Samba Member Joined: October 05, 2009 Posts: 3382

A repop of that hanger would sell well IMO, type 4 parts are dying fast..T-1 conversions will be the best (maybe only ) option for the future.
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gleason · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:59 pm Post subject:

Right? I can't see a lot of fabricating to make one once you have a pattern. Maybe the frame horn parts, but with CAD now, piece of cake!! Smile

jmarshall024 · Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:08 pm Post subject:

Very helpful thread. I think I'm going to try this in my late bay. I didn't see any mention of starter compatibility. Does that mean everyone is just running their stock bus starters?

busdaddy · Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:40 pm Post subject:

Excellent question, AFAIK the starter that came with the bellhousing will work, short gear for short bellhousing, long gear for later deep version.
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I've read through this thread at least two times, and I get most of it. I just bought a '74 Westy that is missing the engine AND transmission. I want to put a Type 1 engine in it because I plan to drive often in Mexico, where Type 4 parts are unknown. What should I do for a transmission? Late 002? Something custom built? What did the European late Bays with 1600 use?

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