Installing a Type 1(upright cooling)engine into a Type 4 72+ FAQ

[bugbenginer]

I would be interested in the mounts, I bought a bus that already had the covers in. And it runs amazing but didn’t have the support bracket or engine tin so I’m just doing that kind of stuff. Didn’t want to convert it back to a type 4.
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[airschooled]

Hypothetically speaking, could the T1 doghouse fan shroud be removed in situ with a late bay access hatch? All the late T1 buses I work on are Euro-spec sans hatch……

Robbie
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[busdaddy]

Intriguing hypothesis, you'd have to try shoving a shroud through a hatch, it may not be wide enough to let the shroud rise high enough to clear the oil cooler. Next time I'n near both of those parts I'll see if it fits.
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[bugbenginer]

Would there be a huge difference in what carb is ran on a 1500 or 1600 engine with the mid conversion? Would it really matter that much weather it’s a 34 or a 31?
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[bugbenginer]

Little help, my type 1 engine in my 75 doesn’t have any wires on the top right stud, what should go here?

Thanks in advance
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[aeromech]

A fairly large red wire with ring terminals on each end. The other end goes to your starter where it junctions to the battery positive. You could just go to the battery but it’s not as clean of an installation
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[bugbenginer]

So, I know I should have a 7/71 accelerator cable, but I don’t it’s still the FI cable that was there and the previous owner ran it that way. Will the 70/71 bus cable work through the stock 75 tube all the way back to the carb and clip on the pedal assembly perfectly, or will I have to modify a new way to hook the cable up?
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[busdaddy]

The front one replaces the beetle style one over the bellhousing, the rear one connects to your existing breast plate.

As for throttle cables I doubt either option will fit perfectly, try the 71 version, it's likely very close.
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[germansupplyscott]

Not sure if this belongs here, or maybe in the 'Hall of Shame' thread, but this is a pretty 'interesting' upright engine in a late Bus. This seems to have been a running and driving engine in the vehicle - until it stopped running maybe. Not sure on the whole story behind it but I wish there were more photos.

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[aeromech]

I’d give that engine about 60 minutes of run time before it craps
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[busdaddy]

, well........., technically if you never stop moving.................., maybe a little like that bus in the movie Speed!

I'm posting it in the engine abortion thread if you haven't already
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[germansupplyscott]

I didn't know there was such a thing but yes post, it's worthy of that.
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[67sash]

It is good to see this thread back moving.

An update on my 1776 type 1 in my 73 Hightop. We have just recently completed about 12,000 miles since the motor was installed. Still running NO mustache bar. The motor has been amazing and taken us on numerous adventures! The smokey mountains in just over a week. I am really happy I didn't overthink this transplant and use real-life examples to guide versus opinions. I am not against the mustache bar modification and fitting, I just spend my free time driving the bus and using it rather than it sitting. Baja guys have hung their motors.....forever it seems.

[RalphWiggam]

I think a lot more folks are going to be doing this conversion in 10-15 years with the way good type4 parts are going.

I personally dont really care too much what engine is in my bus as long as it makes decent power and can take me where I want to go. I dont really need to get 100K between rebuilds. 50-60k is just fine by me.

[RWK]

First time reading this, lol, I brought back the tins from Mexico,( on an airplane no less, goofy souvenir, got lots of strange looks!) in the late 80s, always figured on putting a T1 in a later bus, but the tins used the T1 rear breast plate as I recall it wasn't part of the conversion plate, Mexico didn't use the T4 engine, we rented them several times while there, there was always 6 or more of us and they were the best deal, we drove them to all the ruins.
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