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MURRAYMW1 Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2011 Posts: 79 Location: Aptos, Ca
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: wind deflectors |
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I installed the clips then drove 800 plus miles over 2 days. About 250 with the window down. Worked great. Thanks Chris et. al. _________________ Mark
85 Westy - current
Past - 85 weekender; 72 camper, 65 van; many bugs 54 - 72 |
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jacklndn Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2011 Posts: 121 Location: Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:54 am Post subject: |
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With the clips installed will the deflectors be easily removable and reinsertable?
I'm 6'3", the Westy has swivel seats, so I sometimes find myself removing the deflectors between trips for around town driving, or even during a trips to allow better viewing.
Thanks. _________________ 1986 Westy GL 4 spd |
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j_dirge Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 4641 Location: Twain Harte, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:49 am Post subject: |
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j_dirge wrote: |
A set of clips arrived from Loogy, yesterday.
Excellent timing as we are heading off on a 1200 miles loop in a day or two.
My dubflectas have been pretty OK, thus far. I like 'em.
Driver side stays up but bows in the center.
Passenger side began to slip this winter.. cross winds work it loose, but it has never been so loose as to potentially lose it.
This in cross winds up to 35 knots.
I watched the video over breakfast.
On mine I placed two clips on the passenger's side. The video suggests 4. And 4 are provided for each deflector.
One clip is placed in middle top. One clip is at the aft bottom.
Immediate impression is that the deflector is much more snug.
I may be OK with just the 2.
I'll carry the extras with me on the trip and add them if necessary.
Although no slippage on my driver side, I may add one clip on the top, middle for good measure.
Will report back on these after the trip.
Chris,
Thank for getting these out so quick upon arrival.
cheers,
the dirge |
Back from 1200 mile trip. 100 degree heat to rain to snow.. drt roads, HWY, back roads.
The clips work. Love the dubflectas.. specially when roaring down the HWY at 75 with the windows open.
Jack London,
I am also in the 6-3 range.. I don't remove the deflectors.. Got used to them being there and now hardly notice unless I am craning to see something..
The clips would surely make removal a bit more involved.. and not something I'd want to do regularly. If you want that ease of removal, I'd maybe only use one clip.. or live with the sagging.
Try it out.. report back. _________________ -89 GL Westy, SVX.. finally.
-57 pan f/g buggy with a 67 pancake Type 3 "S"
"Jimi Hendrix owned one. Richard Nixon did not"
-Grand Tour, Season 1, episodes 4 and 5
danfromsyr wrote: |
those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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debbiej Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2008 Posts: 1556 Location: las cruces, nm
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:57 am Post subject: |
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The deflector on the right side window has begun to drop down at the corner, so I guess I'd also need some clips. |
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Mickyfin Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2011 Posts: 96 Location: Kuopio, Finland
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Contact Dubflecta and they will send you some clips, and are suppling clips now with all orders.
I sent my paypal payment to them yesterday for a pair of L Shaped Wind Deflectors |
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thatvwbusguy Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 1712 Location: Newmarket, New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:25 am Post subject: |
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If you purchased your Dubflecta's from Christopher @ T3 Technique, you should contact him for the clips. His email address is [email protected].
I installed my clips a few days ago and the small amount of sagging I had on the drivers side is totally gone now. These deflectors work great, highly recommended!!! _________________ Jay Brown
'85 Zetec Westfalia
Newmarket, NH
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.
If you want to be happy, practice compassion. |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Driving yesterday, I found myself trying to decide what I like most about these deflectors:
1. Reduced wind noise (closed)...
2. Reduced wind buffetting (open)...
3. Reduced glare & solar gain...
Never mind - I just decided #3 is my favorite.
I figure they cover/tint about 35% of the window area - open OR closed -
providing many of the benefit of front tinting without the legal issues...???
Love these.
Love 'em.
_________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5392 Location: PNW
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:07 am Post subject: |
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I'm REALLY glad that the clips are working for you guys and I also appreciate all of the positive support and kind words. Thank you! _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
T3Technique.com or contact me at [email protected] |
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indytriple Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009 Posts: 710 Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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The "post-clip-era" reviews seem to be good enough to warrant getting a set of these. Order placed!
I'm looking forward to using them on our upcoming vacation. I might actually be able to hear my kids talking to me from the backseat without screaming. _________________ "See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
www.bluegrassbicyclecompany.com |
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FloydRTurbo Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2008 Posts: 33
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Just wanted to provide some feedback after a summer of driving and camping with these.
I installed the current model with the "clips". The installation is straight foreward and the clips do their job, no sag. I do have an occasional rattle on the pax window. That being said I would not take these off and on on a regular basis. Once installed leave them on or take them off for good. I did damage my drivers side rubber when installing and the chance of this happening is high.
I am over 6' tall and find the bottom edge of the upper part of the deflector is directly in my line of sight. Takes getting used to. I also find distortion in the leading foreward edge of the deflector, again takes getting used to. I do like any of this distortion. I also do not like having to "duck under" the deflector if I want to put my head all the way out the window. Shorter drivers/users may not have these issues.
They do seem to lower the interior noise, windows up, down or partial, although this is a subjective obsevation. It is nice to be able to leave the front windows cracked to the lower edge of the deflector when parked or camping. Keeps the air flowing, rain and bugs out.
All in all these are just ok, for $80 you are not out a great deal. If you are taller than 6' you might want to think twice about them or try to test drive a pair before you commit. I will keep them on until I replace my window rubbers, at that time I will probably think hard about putting them back on. |
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indytriple Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009 Posts: 710 Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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These have become one of my favorite upgrades (and my wife, too). I put them on my Carat.
There is amazing reduction in wind and noise. I haven't even considered using the clips that Chris sent. Mine fit textbook, and they haven't budged in several hundred miles of driving in lots of conditions. My power windows roll up and down like a charm.
Here's a funny observation...I can now easily leave food wrappers and napkins on my lap while I eat a sandwich, etc. Any attempt at this would have ended in a fast-food tornado before the deflectors.
Most of the things that others have mentioned are true (decreased visibility, less ability to drive like Ace Ventura, and probably not as good for tall people, etc.). I will gladly endure what I consider to be minor downsides in exchange for the benefits of this upgrade. I also wondered if they'd be easy to take off and on, but now I can't imagine a scenario where I would even consider it.
Thanks for providing a great Vanagon product, Chris. Recommendo. _________________ "See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
www.bluegrassbicyclecompany.com |
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chojinchef Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2011 Posts: 1539 Location: Central Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Had my driver side one drop out couple weeks back on an excessively windy day. They are both off the Thingamajigger now. Completely rebuilt door with all new rubber and gaskets.
Don't know what upset me more; losing the dubflecta or my 5 year old son hearing me drop the F bomb for the first time. (Don't tell the wife)
LP _________________ Its a mistress; an expensive, whiney, needy bitch of a mistress. She is a chunky, dirty girl with bad skin, little motivation and yet she always makes me smile. She sure has been around before shacking up with me. She has a direct line to my wallet, plays with my emotions, is consistantly jovial yet with a sarcastic and sardonic side, is consistant in her inconsistancy, and every once in a while gives me a great ride and a fantastic memory. |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5392 Location: PNW
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hey LP, did this happen with the clips in place or without the clips? _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
T3Technique.com or contact me at [email protected] |
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chojinchef Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2011 Posts: 1539 Location: Central Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Christopher Schimke wrote: |
Hey LP, did this happen with the clips in place or without the clips? |
All respect due to you, I think I was overlooked on the clips despite our email conversations. Were not in box with trailing arm bolts, that was last thing I got from you.
Should have taken them out until I got the clips, but I like the wind noise reduction. _________________ Its a mistress; an expensive, whiney, needy bitch of a mistress. She is a chunky, dirty girl with bad skin, little motivation and yet she always makes me smile. She sure has been around before shacking up with me. She has a direct line to my wallet, plays with my emotions, is consistantly jovial yet with a sarcastic and sardonic side, is consistant in her inconsistancy, and every once in a while gives me a great ride and a fantastic memory. |
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shizzon Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2006 Posts: 596 Location: Boulder, CO
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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When will these things be back in stock? _________________ 1989 Bostig Syncro Westy |
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vanagonjr Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 3431 Location: Dartmouth, Mass.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:27 am Post subject: |
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chojinchef wrote: |
Don't know what upset me more; losing the dubflecta or my 5 year old son hearing me drop the F bomb for the first time. (Don't tell the wife)
LP |
You made it 5 years before dropping the F-Bomb in front of the kid Give the man a metal! _________________ John - 86 Wolfsburg Westfalia "Weekender"
Flint reversed 1.8T W/Passat 5-Speed
LiMBO (late model bus club) www.limbobus.org
LiMBO is on Facebook too! https://www.facebook.com/groups/
FAQ thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=525798 |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5392 Location: PNW
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: |
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shizzon wrote: |
When will these things be back in stock? |
Hopefully within the month. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
T3Technique.com or contact me at [email protected] |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I need some help.
My left side with clips still slides down a bit and I need to push it up.
My right side is a lot better BUT, I can not seem to get the clips up. I do not want to force and break.
Help me understand how to install them:
- The barbed side goes toward the rubber / inside of van. That right?
- Any tricks on getting the clips to seat?
(I am sure tempted to create a little U channel with a set screw.....) _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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spitsnrovers Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2005 Posts: 925 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I am somewhat dismayed to hear all the problems people are having with their wind deflectors. So, not wanting to say anything negative about the present manufacturer, I offer the following:
Here in Costa Rica, I just had a set of 4 (four) smokey grey ones made for my 4 door pickup. The shop already had the molds for the front doors, but had to make a tracing, then a mold, then blow them, cut, grind and fit the rear ones. It was the first time he'd had to do a 4 door Isuzu. Each deflector was then edged with black vinyl trim. Total cost for all 4, fitted, was $26.00.
Here, all these deflectors are glued into the window channel with a thin smear of superglue along the top outer edge where the deflector meets the rubber. Those things are in to stay. To remove the old broken ones I had to break out the plastic, then clean the rubber with acetone.
Perhaps current owners could try that with their deflectors?
Also, I made a tracing of my '88 Westfalia's door windows while back in Canada, and now will have the local shop here in CR make me a set. When I get back to Canada in March I'll fit them, without the superglue first, and see how they work.
If they work satisfactorily I will look into having more made here in CR for members of theSamba. The cost won't be as low as my ready made Isuzu set, but surely won't be as high as those imported from England. _________________ '88 VW Westfalia
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I am Wildcat Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2011 Posts: 318 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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I thought I would post some opinions based on my own personal experience with these wind deflectors over the last 6+ months or so. For the record, I have never requested or added the clips, but they did start sagging after 1-2 months of use.
Likes:
-Greatly reduced wind noise
-Ability to let in fresh air without feeling "overpowered" by the wind
-Don't fall out on the trails when your windows are down (which is a huge plus)
Dislikes:
-Both deflectors have cut into my window/door seals at the lower part where they sit
-It makes it more difficult to see my passenger side mirror (which is a LT style mirror)
-The passenger side deflector slightly cracked at the lower part during installation (which is obviously my fault, but I honestly didn't feel like I was being overly rough during installation). Over the months that part has cracked more until there is now a little 1-2" piece missing.
-I don't particularly like the look of them, but chose to use them for the reasons on my "likes" list
I have decided to remove them for the time being. _________________ No more van. Wildcat has a new home.
1997 Land Rover Defender 90
2005 MB SL55 AMG
2014 Tesla Model S P85+ |
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