Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Anyone running square H4's ?
Page: 1, 2, 3  Next
Forum Index -> Vanagon Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
outwesty
Samba Member


Joined: June 06, 2006
Posts: 1074
Location: Tahoe City
outwesty is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:56 pm    Post subject: Anyone running square H4's ? Reply with quote

I recently picked up a syncro that has Hella square H4's in it. I looked for a set of these years ago and could not find any under $500-$600 a pair. I see that van cafe now has a $425 kit. http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_923_1053/h4_rectangular_head_light_kit.html

Whoever wired them didn't know what they were doing. The low-beams are wired to the original switch with relays but they are not throwing and the high beams are wired to the defrost switch w/o a relay? (still have not seen the H4's work) The brights function on the stalk does nothing. I am going to pull everything and relay them straight to the battery.

The city light function is pretty dope. These are mandatory in some european countries as a sort of a daytime running light from what I understand. The separate city light bulbs in the housing are amber so the headlights have a slight orange glow when the parking lights are on.

Anyone running these ? what do you think ? The stock squares kind of suck even when relayed with 80/100 bulbs. I was going to do a dual round kit for better lighting but I think the squares look much better on a Vanagon. just curious how many people are running these euro H4's and what you thought....


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Team WorldTour
Samba Member


Joined: September 02, 2010
Posts: 2426
Location: Der Vaterland
Team WorldTour is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running round Euro H4's. I love them! My city lights are blue. They look wicked! I have bulbs for summer and winter (different color/ hue). Just pop out the housing and swap the bulb! Plus, if I have issues with the bulbs, pop into a FLAPS and get a new set- always in stock!
There was a set of BMW style 'Angel-Eye' lights I saw once, I've been looking for them ever since.
_________________
1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
Click to view image
H6 Subaru Engine Swap Thread
WV2ZZZ25ZFH094138(x)/ WV2YB0257LH057308(x)/ WV2ZZZ25ZLG113270/
"Where am I going? And what am I doing in this handbasket?" -Nicodemus Jordan
When All Else Fails: Lather, Rinse, Repeat!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
madspaniard
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2008
Posts: 3795
Location: Alameda, CA
madspaniard is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Square H4s here, with 100/80w bulbs and relays. Love it, the best mod I have ever done to my van, a total pleasure to drive by night, do it!
_________________
1991 Westy auto w/ Peloquin TBD

"The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad” - Salvador Dali
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
GMByers
Samba Member


Joined: December 07, 2008
Posts: 642
Location: Retired in NW PA
GMByers is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran square H4s on my 91 when we lived in Germany. I even ran a wire to make the parking lights (city lights) work, so both the regular US parking lights and European city lights worked. I eventually switched back to the DOT units. Right now the H4s are somewhere in one of the totes in my garage.

My 80 and 83 both have round H4 lights.
_________________
And then there were two...downsized to 83 Doka &
74 Thing.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
purplepeopleeater
Samba Member


Joined: July 23, 2005
Posts: 3117
Location: E. Washington
purplepeopleeater is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got them on the sycro, I would assume they are wired wrong judging by the couple of messes ive dealt with.

But they are great, I might put them in the west since I drive it more and I like lots of light when drivin.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
DubNuts
Samba Member


Joined: January 06, 2009
Posts: 194

DubNuts is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have installed several of the H4 100/80 upgrade Kits, in a few Vans. Love them they really light up your life, and make a huge lighting diference. And for like $75.00 bucks you can't go wrong. Not sure if I'm missing something but the Van-Cafe Kit looks to be the same other then you getting a new pair of Retangular Lights. Guess if you don't already have a decent set of lights it would make sense, maybe I'm missing someting. After-all your have to do an install either way.. Confused
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
RGS Paul
Samba Member


Joined: April 20, 2007
Posts: 663
Location: Los Alamos, NM
RGS Paul is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone running square H4's ? Reply with quote

outwesty wrote:

The city light function is pretty dope. These are mandatory in some european countries as a sort of a daytime running light from what I understand.


Actually, from what I have heard the city lights are for running at night in lighted European towns. Apparently in some countries it is illegal to turn on your full headlights in town if the road is lit. I use mine as a daytime running light with some little 20 W halogens, works pretty nicely and looks cool. I have round H4's though, easier to replace if you break one.

Paul
_________________
'87 Syncro 7-Pass. Adventure Touring Vehicle
"Simplicate, then add lightness." Colin Chapman
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
a914622
Samba Member


Joined: July 29, 2004
Posts: 840
Location: Westend of HWY2 , Wash
a914622 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv changed out my square Hella H-4 for the square Cibies H-4s. Big improvment in the light output. The fluting on the lenses makes a big differens. I was going to post a compare pic but the camara doesnt get it. Its probably operator error.

jcl
_________________
87 gl powerd buy 2.5subaru
75 914 getting 2.2t subaru scratch that SVX subaru
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
outwesty
Samba Member


Joined: June 06, 2006
Posts: 1074
Location: Tahoe City
outwesty is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DubNuts wrote:
I have installed several of the H4 100/80 upgrade Kits, in a few Vans. Love them they really light up your life, and make a huge lighting diference. And for like $75.00 bucks you can't go wrong. Not sure if I'm missing something but the Van-Cafe Kit looks to be the same other then you getting a new pair of Retangular Lights. Guess if you don't already have a decent set of lights it would make sense, maybe I'm missing someting. After-all your have to do an install either way.. Confused


The ones Van Cafe are selling are H4 housings. You can't use an H4 bulb in the stock north american rectangular housings.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Alaric.H
Samba Member


Joined: March 28, 2009
Posts: 2529
Location: Sandy Springs GA
Alaric.H is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have them in the syncro.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Ahwahnee
Samba Member


Joined: June 05, 2010
Posts: 9810
Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
Ahwahnee is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Domo wrote:
...I have bulbs for summer and winter (different color/ hue...


I'm curious why the difference and what hue for what season (obviously red & green for the Holidays).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Jake de Villiers
Samba Member


Joined: October 24, 2007
Posts: 5911
Location: Tsawwassen, BC
Jake de Villiers is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the rectangular European H4 setup in my '86 running a Volks Cafe relay kit with 80/100 low bulbs and 100w highs and it is the way to go! There is a LOT more light than my '84 with the single round H4s, especially on high, and the city lights are adorable. Wink
_________________
'84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
@jakedevilliersmusic1
http://sites.google.com/site/subyjake/mydixiedarlin%27
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
www.thebassspa.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ZsZ
Samba Member


Joined: December 11, 2010
Posts: 1647
Location: Budapest Hungary, Europe
ZsZ is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I live in Europe, I using the H4 headlights, now the square version Smile
all the auropean standard H4 licensed lights have a 4 or 5W parking light a 40W low beam and a 60W high beam
Now I am using a type of Philips bulbs with increased lightning power on 40/60W
My opinion is the square ones with the aux H7 high beam are better but more difficult/expensive to find replace. There is no new ones except the round type.
For me the SA light setup with the round aux high beam is the nicest setup
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AtlasShrugged
Samba Member


Joined: October 30, 2008
Posts: 1605
Location: Decatur, Ga. USA
AtlasShrugged is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got H4s and I like them..wired in a relay set..still have the standard H4 wattage bulbs in there. Will up it to 80/100w.

The "city lamps" are wired in and come on with the park lamps. Nice DRLs. Like the amber or blue bulb idea too.

Bus came with electronic headlamp adjusters too..nice.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
IdahoDoug
Samba Member


Joined: June 12, 2010
Posts: 10251
Location: N. Idaho
IdahoDoug is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would anybody in Europe in a left hand driver's seat country be willing to identify auto recycling yards/ places with used Vanagon euro lamps for me on a PM? I have a lot of folks overseas but no automotive types and I would not trust them to get the right set of lights to send or the parts that hold them in place.

But if they had a phone number and city they could get them for me and send them in time for Christmas!!

I'd be interested in sending you a finder's fee if that works for you. Thanks!

DougM
_________________
1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
syncrodoka
Samba Member


Joined: December 27, 2005
Posts: 12008
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
syncrodoka is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The square H4 assemblies aren't super common in the EU, they got round assemblies throughout the run.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Corwyn Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: December 29, 2009
Posts: 2238
Location: Olympia, Washington
Corwyn is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running Hella E-code rectangles with 100/130w offroad bulbs, next to Scirocco II high beams (same lens) with 100w yellow bulbs. These things are light cannons! I took great care to aim them relatively low, so I don't burn the retinas out of the local cop!
_________________
'90 White Westy ("The Longship")
FAS Gen V 2.0
The Annual Baja Rally
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604813&highlight=baja

"If anything's" gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there"
~ Captain Ron ~
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rubbachicken
Samba Member


Joined: October 05, 2004
Posts: 3058
Location: socal
rubbachicken is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IdahoDoug wrote:
Would anybody in Europe in a left hand driver's seat country be willing to identify auto recycling yards/ places with used Vanagon euro lamps for me on a PM? I have a lot of folks overseas but no automotive types and I would not trust them to get the right set of lights to send or the parts that hold them in place.

But if they had a phone number and city they could get them for me and send them in time for Christmas!!

I'd be interested in sending you a finder's fee if that works for you. Thanks!

DougM

they come up from time to time, when i was in the UK i had bits shipped from germany to the UK, i'm sure you could get bits shipped to the US
www.ebay.de
_________________
lucy our westy

lucy's BIG adventure

meet 'burni'


markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.

619 201 0310 or 617 935 4182
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Facebook Gallery Classifieds Feedback
a914622
Samba Member


Joined: July 29, 2004
Posts: 840
Location: Westend of HWY2 , Wash
a914622 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corwyn wrote:
I'm running Hella E-code rectangles with 100/130w offroad bulbs, next to Scirocco II high beams (same lens) with 100w yellow bulbs. These things are light cannons! I took great care to aim them relatively low, so I don't burn the retinas out of the local cop!


Oh you got to post pics!!
_________________
87 gl powerd buy 2.5subaru
75 914 getting 2.2t subaru scratch that SVX subaru
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have a set of Rectangular European lights for sale soon,I'm waiting for my double round headlight grill to show up. Wink
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Vanagon All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.