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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sleeves probably could have been an inch longer, but that isn't to bad. Nice thing about metal is you can always add more. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not like I'm going to be able to go fast enough to seriously damage those anyways Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that on a bus?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my truck yea Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you would be just fine Brian. It would take a pretty big jolt on the steering (side swiping a curb at a decent speed for example) to bend the ends. Because the exposed ends are pretty short, they are going to be pretty stiff and not likely to bend. It's the whole slender column principle at work. Long slender columns are more likely to buckle under load than short ones of the same diameter.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why I haven't read this before? You made an interesting read. I haven't finished yet, but I can't wait to ask a question.

You refer a lot to modifying steering components with welded on gussets and brackets. My question is, I've heard that heating up steering components is a bad idea- at what point does welding all these reinforcements start to degrade the original parts? Or is the fact that your adding reinforcement suddenly cancel out the weakening of the component?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian wrote:
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You say you made the insert piece 2x the length of the tie rod ends shorter. The first time I did mine with a insert about 2 " short...... It bent right there .


I'm in fear I made mine too short.

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I'm about to redo the front of my baja as well and I think the sleeve over sounds like a more convenient solution than the inner rod since I will be having someone else align the car and trying to guess how far the ends will be screwed in sounds sketchy.
I bet a sleeve over will help protect that rod from adjustment damage in the future as well. I know the rods I got on there got pretty chewed up along the shafts by all my messing around with them last summer with a pipe wrench. Can't wait!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go outer, do it longer than I did. Go almost all the way up to the little slits on the end.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ORANGECRUSHer wrote:
I don't know why I haven't read this before? You made an interesting read. I haven't finished yet, but I can't wait to ask a question.

You refer a lot to modifying steering components with welded on gussets and brackets. My question is, I've heard that heating up steering components is a bad idea- at what point does welding all these reinforcements start to degrade the original parts? Or is the fact that your adding reinforcement suddenly cancel out the weakening of the component?


Stock spindles are forged and heat treated as one piece. Welding will take some of the temper out locally which does soften the metal around the weld. That said, by welding in gussets you can increase the overall rigidity of the component. Just don't kill the steering knuckles with heat. Take your time and weld it small sections rather than all on one shot. It won't hurt it any.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question:
On later style boxes, is there a trick to getting these two pieces apart?
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I can't tell if the threaded adjuster coming out of the lid is actually threaded in the lid or if I can just hammer it through.
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