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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Another great AA Transaxle story Reply with quote

I wanted to publicly thank Daryl at AA Transaxle for taking care of his customers above and beyond the call.

I bought a rebuilt/re-geared transaxle from Daryl about 6 years ago for my 2.5 Subie powered '85 Westy Weekender. Other than a noisy 3rd gear from new it ran great until 3 weeks ago when I drained out tranny oil for a routine change and found a small ball bearing sticking to the plug magnet, along with a fair amount of metal flakes Shocked . There were no indications of internal problems at all otherwise.

After several conversations via e-mail, I decided to go ahead and pull the tranny and send it back to Daryl, thinking a shift fork was failing. News was not good-the R&P was shot and the tranny needed a full rebuild. Turns out the later model R&P used in my rebuild seems to be weaker than the earlier units (fewer teeth-I had exchanged my original tranny). I had been running Mobil 1 synthetic 75W90 gear oil since install-now running Swepco 201 on Daryl's advice. Once I get the CV's bolted up this weekend I'll see how it shifts in our cold Denver winter so far.

Daryl basically rebuilt the unit for the cost of the new R&P and parts-he did not charge labor despite being 5 yrs out of warranty and he even replaced the chronically noisy aftermarket 3rd gear for me as a warranty item, all this despite running a non-stock engine. This is simply incredible customer service, and is the reason I will continue to use and recommend Daryl to everyone who will listen.

As an aside, the stock Sachs clutch had at least 50% friction lining thickness remaining after 57,000 hard miles when I compared it to my new heavy-duty LUK clutch lining; not bad for a stock part dealing with double the HP and 50% more torque! Makes me wonder if I needed to spend the extra $$ for the LUK kit...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: trans Reply with quote

Blue Bay Bus Well I know where to get my trans. fixed when it brakes. Thats a great story they must be outstanding people. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what failed?

Ring and pinions do not have ball bearings.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was my first thought. Maybe it was actually the diff. Do the spider gears run on ball bearings? Not that it matters, he stepped up and fixed it.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hdenter wrote:
Do the spider gears run on ball bearings?

NO!

Marbles from bearings and various metal floating about from parts failing tends to eat things up.

So what failed, is still my question?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, Daryl is the real thing. He is a fine craftsman who takes pride in his work and he lives and breathes Vanagons. I could see another shop denying any help since your trans was rebuilt 5 years ago or because it has a Subaru conversion. It's great to hear that Daryl stood by his work.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats why he calls it AA , daryl is a vw guru
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't wish ill will toward Daryl but not every story is like yours, and I feel the need to share my story here too. I know people poo-poo the sharing of bad stories, but life is not all kittens and roses.

My transaxle was rebuilt by Daryl 5 years ago, just a stock rebuild, and I let him know I would be using it with my EJ22 engine. A month ago I heard a whining noise, and I had a road trip planned in just a week! I shipped it off to Daryl and he called me with the bad news. After 35k miles the pinion bearing had failed but worse of all main bearing had beat out the case. I asked what could ruin the case like that and he said I must have driven it hard and the red dirt on the case looked like I had taken it to Moab and wheeled it... I sometimes take it off the beaten path on dirt roads but I definitely don't wail on it.

Anyway at the end of the day Daryl said it would be $1370 to rebuild it, even though the R&P was still good. I don't know how it became $1370 either, as his normal rebuild fee is $1095 and a gear carrier is $100 from GoWesty. I'm not sure how my transaxle was different than yours, in that you got a deal and I didn't. I understand that these transaxles are old, and the parts are not new. Stuff happens, things break, and tolerances of old parts are hard to quantify. I don't blame Daryl that my transaxle only lasted 35k miles.

I ended up giving Daryl my core for his troubles, as I didn't want to pay for his time to disassemble it and the cost to ship it back. I bought a Pick-N-Pull transaxle for $150 and was able to complete my road trip.

Sorry Daryl, I feel I've conveyed my experience as impartially as I could, and I feel to be fair to all I should do this.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:47 am    Post subject: Daryl is THE MAN Reply with quote

connorsvw2 wrote:
I wanted to publicly thank Daryl at AA Transaxle for taking care of his customers above and beyond the call.

I bought a rebuilt/re-geared transaxle from Daryl about 6 years ago for my 2.5 Subie powered '85 Westy Weekender. Other than a noisy 3rd gear from new it ran great until 3 weeks ago when I drained out tranny oil for a routine change and found a small ball bearing sticking to the plug magnet, along with a fair amount of metal flakes Shocked . There were no indications of internal problems at all otherwise.

After several conversations via e-mail, I decided to go ahead and pull the tranny and send it back to Daryl, thinking a shift fork was failing. News was not good-the R&P was shot and the tranny needed a full rebuild. Turns out the later model R&P used in my rebuild seems to be weaker than the earlier units (fewer teeth-I had exchanged my original tranny). I had been running Mobil 1 synthetic 75W90 gear oil since install-now running Swepco 201 on Daryl's advice. Once I get the CV's bolted up this weekend I'll see how it shifts in our cold Denver winter so far.

Daryl basically rebuilt the unit for the cost of the new R&P and parts-he did not charge labor despite being 5 yrs out of warranty and he even replaced the chronically noisy aftermarket 3rd gear for me as a warranty item, all this despite running a non-stock engine. This is simply incredible customer service, and is the reason I will continue to use and recommend Daryl to everyone who will listen.

As an aside, the stock Sachs clutch had at least 50% friction lining thickness remaining after 57,000 hard miles when I compared it to my new heavy-duty LUK clutch lining; not bad for a stock part dealing with double the HP and 50% more torque! Makes me wonder if I needed to spend the extra $$ for the LUK kit...


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Another great AA Transaxle story Reply with quote

Welll...I cannot please everyone for sure. I do my darndest to though.
I am sorry about Ryan's trans, but wear and failure after 5 yrs is pushin the limits in most cases. These days without 20 plus year old rigs we are hampered by tired metalurgy and parts made in non-German countries and there is only so much I can do.
If I remember right, the pinion bearing had beaten out the main case bore and needed replaced too. Pinion bearings can fail prematurely these days as they are made in Hungary and we have definately seen some premature metalurgy failures withing a year or 2.
87 and later ring & pinions are bad about 40+% of the time on 2wd trannies we get for rebuilding...40% is a huge number..Bad design on VW's part..jacks up the cost and will fail prematurely again with another used one..Nothing I can do other than charge a grand for a better one.
Connors trans had a 3rd gear noise for years and I had promised to handle it after the rebuild...A no brainer.
Nuf said for now, but I very much appreciate all the good words (even Ryans ) and am trying to keep everyone happy campers and still stay in business.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, AA is the biz.

Good to see ya back on yer feet!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Guy and great service. I am on my second one. This time for a svx vanagon.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take all of what is stated above with a grain of salt.

Why one person gets a deal and the other not may well be apples and oranges. We do NOT know the whole story no matter what people write. It is between the primaries and not us back seaters.

Yes the boxes are old. Sometimes we get a run of bad parts. Sometimes it is a lubrication failure. Sometimes it is user related. All sorts of reasons.

All the good shops are out there to do a superior job. That is how they stay in business. The state of the art and parts situation are evolving. Customer expectations and reality and how it is all handled are variant.

I always want to know what the root cause of failures are and what needs to be done to keep it from happening again.

In my recent rebuild case, I opted to upgrade and add things to help stave off load related failures. These options may not have been available a few years ago.

There are some things the builder just can not for see, though, too. Crap shoot; it is not factory brand new. The builders do the best they can.

FYI: We have all the VW factory tools to do these rebuilds, BUT, I opted to let pros do the job as they do this every day. That is why I did not do it. I have a warm fuzzy feeling as they know all the current tricks. I do NOT want to be an expert on every thing I have.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r39o wrote:
I always want to know what the root cause of failures are and what needs to be done to keep it from happening again.


Yeah me too... Does my EJ22 have too much power? Consensus seems to be no. Do I just drive too hard? I'd like to think I don't abuse things. Was my Hungarian pinion bearing bad and/or gear carrier worn out from the start?

I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens to this next transaxle.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly did not want to do anything by my post except applaud a great Vanagon vendor and great customer service!

I should have been more clear about my case. Daryl had offered early on to replace my noisy 3rd gear soon after the original install, but I did not want to pull the tranny again and send it back if it was not harmful to run. What I was surprised and pleased by was his honoring and even extending that offer 6 years later when my R&P failed.

Don't get me wrong-after 2 tranny rebuilds and 1 new R&P I have spent a fair amount of change on just this one part of my conversion...but you have to pay to play with a more powerful engine conversion, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just to remind people
Dont Use Redline MT-90, Swepco 210 is your friend.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon_slider wrote:
just to remind people
Dont Use Redline MT-90,
connorsvw2 wrote:
I had been running Mobil 1 synthetic 75W90 gear oil since install

Jon_slider wrote:
Swepco 210 is your friend.
connorsvw2 wrote:
-now unning Swepco 201 on Daryl's advice


Yes, use what your builder tells you to. In my case I bought the lube from the builder. It is Lubeatech ( LAT ) brand 80W90 gear oil.

See the MT-90 debate: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=366486
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