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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:32 am    Post subject: A new Burley build - passenger side swing away Reply with quote

I need ideas.

Burl Beveridge is building a matching swing away for my passenger side.
Its primary function will be holding jerry cans/water jug. 3, I think.

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When not serving that gas can function, the tray (a flip down is the "plan") will be a convenient locale for tool box, cooler, Q100 BBQ, a chess board (thanks, Dan N.).. and what ever else... maybe a part-time ski rack

So here's the question I've got for TheSamba crew, here:

What are some good jerry can hold downs on the market. We really don't want to build soemthing from scratch.. Looking for straps, cages, what have you,.. that can be incorporated into the build.

Its been some 20 yrs since I've been much into the offroad scene, so I have some catching up to do with what is offered out there.

Help a chap find some answers/links?

Thanks guys!.. and gals!


I'll keep the thread alive as the build progresses.. The mounting flanges are being cut as we speak.. May be a very Merry Christmas for Dirges 2WD 16er. Very Happy Woo hoo!
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: gas cans Reply with quote

Blue Bay Bus The old military ones look cheap, they have the tray and hold down is a strap or a 1 inch metal strap. That said I really like my Gary Lee. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most holders that I know of mount the cans horizontally as they are designed to work on the roof where aerodynamics is a issue. It depends on what style of jerry cans that you have as well- scepter, NATO or old US screw on style.

I like the simplicity of the expedition exchange design and I expect it would be durable.
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/cart/product.php?productid=19234&cat=287&page=1

Bajarack-
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Frontrunner-
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The Adventure Trailers aluminum can holders are dreamy-
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

<drool..>
Very Happy

Got some homework to do.. But those are right on target for what I'm after.

Only upright.. The Frontrunner looks like 3 would fit just right, if upright.
I am ready for new cans, too.. So am not limited by what I have.. This can be built for which ever can is best. Your thoughts on cans?

Thanks, man!
Hope to have this in time to show at Burningvan.


Joeseph928,
Gary Lee builds very nice product.. But that's my blue van there in the first post.. Already Burleyed on the right side, back side, and underside.. and am matching it.. because,.. well I'm into fashion. Wink Yeah. baby!
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frontrunner does make a vertical version, though much less elegant than the AT version -
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

syncrodoka wrote:
Frontrunner does make a vertical version, though much less elegant than the AT version -

That AT offering is quite pleasant to the eye.
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:37 am    Post subject: gas cans Reply with quote

j_dirge wrote:
<drool..>
Very Happy

Got some homework to do.. But those are right on target for what I'm after.

Only upright.. The Frontrunner looks like 3 would fit just right, if upright.
I am ready for new cans, too.. So am not limited by what I have.. This can be built for which ever can is best. Your thoughts on cans?

Thanks, man!
Hope to have this in time to show at Burningvan.


Joeseph928,
Gary Lee builds very nice product.. But that's my blue van there in the first post.. Already Burleyed on the right side, back side, and underside.. and am matching it.. because,.. well I'm into fashion. Wink Yeah. baby!
Blue Bay Bus Love your rack ,It's as nice as a Gary Lee, I was not saying to change it. just that I really like the way Lee puts the gi can on his rack ! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am opting myself out of this game...

the amount of things you guys add to the westy amaze me and make me drool..

if I follow you guys my engine gonna explode with the extra weight... and/or need a new name kinda like "The Slug of the Hiway"

Very Happy

anyway, Jim you're ahead of the game with the SVX in the waiting...May I suggest that you need an full lenght roof rack?

very cool.. I like it...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

0to60in6min wrote:
May I suggest that you need an full lenght roof rack?

very cool.. I like it...

Umm.. Won't fit in my garage. And I already rasied the header 6" to fit the lift and tires.. Yeah. Wifey LOVED that! Laughing
"Uh oh.. Doesn't fit..."

And to raise the header any higher, I either need to excavate, or raise the house.
hmm.... Whats another, $125k right?

Hope all is well down your way.. I'll email you some life updates.
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gas is about 6Lbs a gallon so trying to get a full jerry can off of a rack and back to ground level can be a chore.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gas is about 6Lbs a gallon so trying to get a full jerry can off of a rack and back to ground level can be a chore.


then he needs to go the gym beside working on his SVX...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Frontrunner-
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The Adventure Trailers aluminum can holders are dreamy-
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Those look really nice!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gas is about 6Lbs a gallon so trying to get a full jerry can off of a rack and back to ground level can be a chore.


No need to lift it off the rack for a syncro. The filler is inches away a short hose could be used the siphon the fuel into the tank fairly easily (provided your not in a big hurry). I know your supposed to fill plastic cans on the ground because of static electricity sparks but is that true of steel Jerry cans? If not they could almost always just be left in their mounts.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: A new Burley build - passenger side swing away Reply with quote

British Pacific makes some jerry carriers that are inexpensive and strong enough although not as robust as the frontrunners:

http://www.britishpacific.com/content.php?f=jerrycan

If interested, recommend you call them about fitment to your particular fuel can.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No need to lift it off the rack for a syncro.


I hope this won't give the OP a fit...

hmmm... kinda like this... "err... honey....it's a bit heavy to lift the jerry can... someone suggested a syncro... what'd y a think..?"

hehe..

is there any Syncro in your crystal ball Jim?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

0to60in6min wrote:
is there any Syncro in your crystal ball Jim?

Very Happy

Nope..
I eschew the Syncro.
(in my best Peter Sellers voice)

But a Peloquin showed up on my door today.
By spring I might be a real 2WD. Very Happy

When are we going wheelin' in the Eastern Sierras?

I'll race you around Mono Lake on the old RR ROW.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncrozilla wrote:
syncrodoka wrote:
Gas is about 6Lbs a gallon so trying to get a full jerry can off of a rack and back to ground level can be a chore.


No need to lift it off the rack for a syncro. The filler is inches away a short hose could be used the siphon the fuel into the tank fairly easily (provided your not in a big hurry). I know your supposed to fill plastic cans on the ground because of static electricity sparks but is that true of steel Jerry cans? If not they could almost always just be left in their mounts.

I bought something similar to a super siphon from home depot(near the sump pumps) that I use to transfer fuel that would work well for the job if they are stored on the rear for a syncro. http://www.expeditionexchange.com/supersiphon/

The problem with filling a gas can isn't isolated to the plastic cans from what I have read, static buildup is the issue. I always drag my can out and put it on the ground before filling it.
http://www.familycar.com/SafetyAlert/pickup.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warning thread hijack

I seem to recall a few years ago a few syncro owners from the PNW installing wires on the undercarriage of their syncros that would drag on the ground. At the time I thought this was kind of silly. The claim was it helped with driver fatigue and some other claims which I can't remember right now. Perhaps with a accessory like this a Jerry can could be safely filled while left on it's mount? Alternatively this could be used as excellent justification for a TDI syncro. That would completely eliminate the need for lifting heavy cans of gasoline.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuing with hijacked thread ....

That began with a particular person (name withheld to protect the innocent) and rapidly spread to a few close friends but not much beyond. Upon close interrogation the users claimed a real personal feeling of calm and etc. on long drives -- sort of the concept of ensuring grounding everything that needed to be grounded in the rig but either wasn't or was unknown. Whatever works I say ... Wink

Doubt it would have anything to do with personal safety regarding fuel cans. Seems the biggest issues with the latter is filling such while sitting on plastic rather than rubber or metal. Ground filling still likely best insurance.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WestyBob wrote:
Ground filling still likely best insurance.

I've always filled on the ground.. mostly because I invariably splash some and don't want in, on, or around the rig.

I like being grounded, though.. perhaps a large copper strap dragging off the frame?

It would help with SSB reception too!


So how about those %*&#!! CARB nozzles.. I do not beleive I have spilled so much fuel since I've been using a CARB filler on the boat.
Kind of defeats the environmental purpose of eliminating 2-strokes when we wind up spilling gasoline in the water instead.

Oh crap.. I CARBed my own thread.
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