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58ragman
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 Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 1:16 pm Post subject: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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Hello Samba got a question so how it goes is i installed a narrowed beam 6" and i got some brake lines that tend to drop down after every drive. Concerned bout them hanging up on something on the road so a call down to AIRKEWLD and pete recommended that i coil the 18" stainless lines so they don't drop down.
Has anybody ran into this problem with a 6" narrowed beam and the brake lines moving down after a drive.
If you have and coiled them can u shoot and post some pics.so i can get a better ideal on how they are coiled to preven dropping.
any help is much appreciated and thanks in advance |
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EVfun
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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Are you talking about the front flex hoses? If so, on what year chassis? On older Bugs, pre-‘65, the front hose is longer and supposed to have a half turn twist in it. The next brake hose, for ‘65 &’66 Bugs is about 2 inches shorter and might work better with a drastically narrowed front beam.
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esde
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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Move the tab where the hose mounts to the front of the pan, to correspond with the narrowed/ lowered suspension. Sometimes I have to make the tab longer, to move the hose end up, and sometimes change the angle a little so the hose lays where I want it
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58ragman
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:54 am Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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| any pics on coiling thanks |
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VeloMikey
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:51 am Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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Have shorter custom lines made? Or cut yours down and have a shop that makes lines crimp the new end back on.
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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| VeloMikey wrote: |
| Have shorter custom lines made? Or cut yours down and have a shop that makes lines crimp the new end back on. |
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This.
Teflon stainless braided lines have a very poor SAFE bend radius versus just about any other soft brake line....even stainless braided rubber hoses. They should never be "coiled" for risk of being pulled in one direction could cause a kink. If you ever kink braided teflon....just throw it away for safety sake. It cracks very easily.
You can buy teflon stainless hoses for pretty cheap in just about any length you need....or as suggested, Hage yours shortened to the correct length. Ray |
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Brian_e
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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Back in the day on our rock crawlers, we used to use a long coil spring with hooks on each end. Hook one end on the spring, and the other back to the pan or inner fender to keep it up. The spring will extend when the wheel turns and pulls the hose.
Just make sure it won't be rubbing the tire at any point.
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EVfun
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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| 58ragman wrote: |
| any pics on coiling thanks |
Here is a picture from theSamba gallery, posted by RustPatch
You can kinda see the roll up on the front brake hoses. You screw them into the wheel cylinder and then give them about a half turn twist so the hose goes somewhat up and forward. Then you put the inboard end into the chassis bracket and put the clip in place. The hose for the 1965-1966 Bugs is 40mm shorter. It should handle your need a little better since you are 76mm narrower per side with a 6 inch narrowed beam.
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58ragman
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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| EVfun thanks for the pic on coiling the brake lines.Now i know what is meant and how to coil them again thanks |
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58ragman
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: COILING SS brake lines to prevent dropping down after a drive |
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| 58ragman wrote: |
| any pics on coiling thanks |
Here is a picture from theSamba gallery, Thank EVfun |
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