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chojinchef
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| the kitchen at James Beards house is probably as small as a Westy's... Merry XMAS EVERYONE! My friend who I did the dinner with is trying to make me become a cook again... kicking and screaming... |
Always a cook. Just not always the Chef.
Merry Christmas all.
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Bruce Wayne
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| what's the difference between a cook and a chef? |
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rubbachicken
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DAIZEE
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I think one is skilled in Administration and has lots of people below. Well a cook is a chef is they are any good but often don't have the political might of having the crown of a "Chef". A cook can do anything and a skilled Chef recognizes that! just sorta kidding 
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chojinchef
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All Chefs are cooks, not all cooks are Chefs.
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Bruce Wayne
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| what's the difference between a cook and a chef? |
their attitude!! |
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aswah
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and even worse, I am/used to be a dirt bag who plates food for a living...
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aswah
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so, bringing this bac to the cook off... is any mise en place allowed at home...??? probably shouldn't be. And, will we have a cartwheeling announcer introducing the other element???
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chojinchef
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| so, bringing this bac to the cook off... is any mise en place allowed at home...??? probably shouldn't be. And, will we have a cartwheeling announcer introducing the other element??? |
I am going back and forth with this. In my initial thoughts, home Mise would not be allowed, but the overall time to prepare would need to increase. Then there is the question of teams - is it one person, two, or would three be allowed?
Have to think past pro cooks abilities - whats it take for a home cook to prep 2 quarts of holy trinity? Basic stocks should be allowed (if wanted)? I want to keep it simple, but an equal playing field for all. More fun that way. Added interest being brought from ones home garden.
Of course someone will pull a Careme, in some fashion. Cant be helped.
Also - as I do like the above posters suggestion that turns it into a pot luck, but most are competitive by nature and would enjoy the challenge associated with a friendly competition.
Maybe Aswah (if willing) and I can get a rough draft of competition rules and outline built by PM, and then post here for general consideration rather than endless posts on the minutae of cookery and whats allowed and whats not?
Then the thought would be that we have similar competitions on either coast?
All in the efforts of good fun, comaraderie and good eating.
LP
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Bruce Wayne
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| and even worse, I am/used to be a dirt bag who plates food for a living... |
been doing it for 20+ years myself. |
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Just got back to thread & noticed that a while back a viewer questioned how you turn peaches into pineapples!
That is the hard part & a trade secret!
Nah, 2 different Dutch Oven desserts-peaches are in Peach Cobbler & pineapples/cherries are in Pineapple Upside Down cake. BTW, these are REALLY basic DO desserts.
Plating & presentation are everything, & pairing the wine w/ fud even while camping & don't forget the cloth napkins & candles-always required.
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DAIZEE
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Someone finally noticed my humor!
Standard of Rules throughout USA/CANADA events and winners advance to bigger regional events, etc.... onto the International Cook Off
No special plates, pans, etc... Only what is normally carried in the "cooks" van/euro is allowed. One 2 burner stove, one cooler/ice box/fridge, 3 or 4 pots/pans. The difficulty presented by the restricting rules will only add to the challenge! The person who can do it all in one pan should be considered highly skilled
Everyone who is tasting brings their plates, utensils, chair and BYOB and vessel. I'm not going to be a cook, but I hereby volunteer and/or will pay to be a taster 
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