70 -71 fuse panel

hansie · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject: 70 -71 fuse panel

Before I get shot down I did try to look but didn't find my answer. Will a fuse panel from a 12-70 ,which I would say would be a 1971 work in my 12-69 1970 ?
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busdaddy · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject:

Yes, but it'll have some bonus relay holes or they'll be shaped differently for later style units, 1 more fuse too IIRC.
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hansie · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject:

Hi Busdaddy
I had a good feeling that you would answer my post. I guess my next question is , if I do wire by wire exchange will the relays be in the right spot? Is there any thing I have to look for or be carefully of ? Thanks Karl
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busdaddy · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:52 pm Post subject:

Match the wire colors up and you should be OK on the relays, it may be a good idea to follow the diagram for which wires go to which end of which fuses incase there's been some PO action in there before.
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germansupplyscott · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:51 pm Post subject:

'70 uses a 4-pin flasher relay and '71 a 3-pin. not sure what the workaround will be for that. i have never tried to make that swap work. the '70 fuse panels are a pain, so it would be great if some figured out a way to make the '71 panel work in a '70. i think if you study the wiring diagrams closely enough you can make it work. you may lose the signal flashing light on the dash, or something relatively insignificant like that.
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borninabus · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject:

the work around is a 3 pin relay hooked up according to the 71 diagram and a jumper wire off 49a for the dash lights.
you could even plug it in to the bottom of your new fuse panel

with some liberties taken from both the 71 & 70 diagram you'll get it done.

don't be intimidated.
get 2 good, color wiring diagrams from the site.
they're easy enough to follow one you're into it
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BryanM · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject:

I believe you can take a 71 box, and carefully rearrange the terminals to match the 70 layout. I haven't done it yet but plan to once I get started on my 70 dorm.
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hansie · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:04 pm Post subject:

I replaced my panel with another 70 panel and I am not happy. They both seamed like they were very brittle. The 71 I got today looks and feels like it is brand new. I know I will have some questions while I am doing the switch over.
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Karl
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busdaddy · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject:

You had one of the orange ones, didn't you?
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hansie · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject:

Orange - will have to look at the replacement. The one I took out was split down the middle - length wise
Karl
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hansie · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:22 am Post subject:

Yes it is an orange one. Well I am going to dig in wish me good luck.
Karl
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busdaddy · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject:

I hope the replacement isn't orange as well or you'll be doing this all again very son.
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wvukidsdoc · Samba Member Joined: April 29, 2005 Posts: 159

Karl,

If you think outside the box a bit, anything is possible.

I have put several of the late panels into early bays, black 76ish ones with associated brackets, into both of the '69 SCs I've owned, into '70 and '71 campers.

As mentioned for any swap, you go circuit by circuit off a Bentley (ideally a color one if you got it.)

Benefit of later is, more circuits you can power accesories with, detriment is fitting it and brackets, and obviouslly it isn't stock. I guess in reality I could have just as easily put in aftermarket GM style panels, but the late bus ones were at hand.

Gives you a good chance to update the feed to panel if you want, correct a lot of PO wiring mishaps, etc.

John

hansie · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject:

Hi Guys
Busdaddy ,no orange one going in this time , it is a nice strong white looking one .
John ,one of my Bentley's has the colored coded wire diagrams in it so I will be flipping pages. I hope I don't drive myself nuts or drink to much beer !
I know one thing if I have any problems I will be back asking you guys for help and I know that I will get it !
Thanks in advance
Karl
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