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tom62
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 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: Getting the double cab ready for paint! |
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I have started the metal work on my 68 double cab
Passenger side dog leg
from this
to a big hole
new metal fitted
Welded, primed and patched a couple of holes in the floor
no filler yet but the door fits nice!
After the dog legs are 3rd door sill and door repairs
My Goal is to have it ready for the Lakeland VW Classic March 18, 2012
Wish me Luck I'm going to need it!
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69rulz
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lookin good man, now sell it to me 
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Boesen
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| Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| Will be watching this thread closely, for two reasons. I love double cabs! And am doing some dogleg replacement on our 79 Bay. Keep us all updated as you can. |
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westy66
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my 68 DC will also be getting some metalwork this winter. ill have to work in my FREEZING garage tho
im doing front floors, left rocker and front inner/outer lower nose. |
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tom62
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| westy66 wrote: |
my 68 DC will also be getting some metalwork this winter. ill have to work in my FREEZING garage tho
im doing front floors, left rocker and front inner/outer lower nose. |
I feel your pain about the cold weather. It got down to 60* last night 
I hope to get back at it Wednesday now that Christmas is over.
I'm doing both rockers, rear door sill repairs, and both front doors need some rust repairs and I am also replacing the engine lid and straightening the dents and dings. |
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| I feel your pain about the cold weather. It got down to 60* last night |
Wish I could keep a solid 60 in my shop. I have two heat sources and when its below 30 my garage is barley 60.
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| I feel your pain about the cold weather. It got down to 60* last night |
Wish I could keep a solid 60 in my shop. I have two heat sources and when its below 30 my garage is barley 60. |
I turn on the halogen work lights, and those give me more heat than the damn portable heater I have ever will! |
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tom62
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Had a day off and made a little more progress
I found a lot more rot in the passenger door than I was expecting
Before
when I started grinding I found this
making patches
after welding 6 different patches and a little grinding
and the front side
and after a splash of Ospho and a quick skim coat on the door
the door is held on by two bolts and the door panel is in the corner but I can drive it to work!
Going to try and get more done Saturday!
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skills@eurocarsplus
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too bad you weren't closer, i have some super solid doors. i used a dogleg like that on a friends bus. what a piece of shit. be careful you don't end up tearing the hell out of your door seal with that stupid fold over they put on it.
my buddys bus
when i did mine, i found decent OE donors. now gerson makes them
i'm repainting my bus now, so while its gutted, i may paint the floor too, but the POR-15 is holding up just fine
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I think I just bought those same dogleg replacement pieces for my 68 Westy Resto. Not dogging your work because it looks like you did good with what you had, but I have to agree with Skills...based upon my inspection of the pieces I got, they are shit
I was going to buy the Gerson doglegs but it looked like they were $220 per side. Not feasible for me when it is actually only the inner lower dog leg sections that need replaced on mine. I guess I'll have to see what I can do with what I have.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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The problem with the replacement ones is poor fit and finish. That dogleg tore up a brand new seal on my buddys bus. I also forgot to mention the captive nuts that hold the side step will break loose when you torque the side step. I had to cut and weld on my back the whole biz back open and re weld a nut plate in there. Never again will I use that trash
Spend the money with gerson. Not only will it fit better you will save hours of your life
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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tom62
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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First of all thanks for all the comments!
My truck is my daily driver so I'm not trying to make a show truck out of it, just trying to keep it from rusting out from under me 
Yes!! I agree that Gerson makes nice products. Fact is I have his rear gate on the truck. It was pricey but it is a very nice fitting piece worth every penny I spent for it.
I Know those doglegs are not perfect but I have used them in the past on my old 69 single cab. I knew what to expect when I used them on the truck. I paid 88 bucks total for them.
Time I have lots of, but cash, not so much!
I really couldn't see the extra cost in my case.
I spent some time flattening the creases in the bends and I had to actually take a small section out of the curve in the rear of the outer piece to make it fit better! I haven't done much finish grinding on the welds yet.
I have a good seal in the door and it seems to seal and isn't tearing.
They did not come with captive nuts so I made a nut plate to attach the bumper ends. I left an opening in the front inner piece so I can slip it in and after I fit the bumper I'll plug weld the nut plate in place and fill the hole.
I was not expecting near as much rust in the passenger door.
I welded new patches in and treated the metal it should be OK.
As you know 68 doors are one year only and are pricey and a pain to find. Yes, I can convert a later door but patching was quicker and easier than trying to find another door. I do have another 68 door for the drivers side if I need it.
I'm trying to do this as I drive it every day. So after I get all the metal work done on this side I'll spend some time finishing it better
Thanks again for all the comments! |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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They did not come with captive nuts so I made a nut plate to attach the bumper ends. I left an opening in the front inner piece so I can slip it in and after I fit the bumper I'll plug weld the nut plate in place and fill the hole.
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 the quality has slid even further if they don't come with the nut plates. keep up the good work! i would love to have a double cab some day. well, i do have 2 single cab's, i wonder if i.........
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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tom62
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Was able to spend a little time on the truck this morning so I
pulled the door back off and smoothed the welds a little more
And I put the first coat of filler on the dogleg
looks a lot better but I do have a low area at the weld that I need to address
the welds look a lot better
BTW that's white primer on it so it doesn't look quite as bad till I get everything ready for paint
Here is the door after a little more work
I'm going to roll with this one but I'll keep my eye out for another door.
the more I look at it the rougher it becomes.
The outside looks OK but the bottom is kind of wormy I patched the holes but I'm not sure how long it will last.
I'll keep enough paint in reserve so if I find another one I can match it.
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tom62
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a Quick update
I knew that the rocker had some fiberglass in it but...
I was not expecting this! 
Oh well looks like I'll be buying a rocker if I can find one!
Y'all have a HAPPY NEW YEAR and be safe !
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tom62
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Got up this morning and rehung the door
Sent an E-mail to monkey nut to see if he has the door rocker if not I'll go straight to Gerson and see what he can do. If worse comes to worse I could probably use a bus rocker and make it fit but I hope I'll be installing some more funky green after all
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kamara
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Nice ...keep up the good work.
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BO JANGLES
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I managed to get an NOS rocker for under the door of mine & quite often see them for sale it would be worth a look . Cool bus though  |
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tom62
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| BO JANGLES wrote: |
| I managed to get an NOS rocker for under the door of mine & quite often see them for sale it would be worth a look . Cool bus though |
Thanks for the comments !
I've watched your build over on Early bay for a while You've done wonders with what you had to start with! Excellent work I Can't wait to see it done.
Monkey Nut doesn't have the rocker in stock and with Gerson's 15% price hike it's 57.50 and then 30 bucks to ship from Colombia. Then there's the issue that I'd have to modify a split double cab rocker.
With all that said for $25.00 versus $90.00 I have decided to just modify a bus rocker. (Flame suit is on so have at it if you must)
I'll pick up one and start chopping it to fit! |
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tom62
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Did some more work on the rockers.
The rest of the right side is in pretty good shape.
I cleaned up along the rest of the rockers all I found was this:
After I welded in a new patch
Then I straightened the seam. It was bent sometime in the past and has bugged me since I got the truck
The new outer rocker should be here tomorrow so I cleaned up the 3rd door and inner rocker and treated with Ospho.
And the repairs are in final primer
I gave up on the white primer it was more trouble than it was worth.
I am debating what kind of paint to use. Not sure if I want to use single stage or go with a base and clear.
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