74 mexican bug VIN same as German?

PedalWerks

Hello, I did a small search and did not find what I need, I looked in the vin section also,

I have what I think is a 74 mexican bug the Vin is 1842470020 "8 or B" at the end

I just need to know the month it was made early or late and is the pan the same as a german (Length)

Thanks Scott
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PedalWerks · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:01 pm Post subject:

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elkriss · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:03 am Post subject:

i think that the vin number its going to be different, because its made in mexico, so they would have other number. But thats only a guess

Glenn73 · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:16 am Post subject:

74 should be the same.
Im eyeing a 74 sittin here with Chihuahua Mexico plates and Zero body rust.
I believe until about 1980 they were all stamped as VW of Germany then the odd vins came with VW of Mexico
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alex857 · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:33 am Post subject:

Hi, actually your VIN should begin with 114, not with 184 as posted. The VINs were the same in the whole VW world until August 1979, sadly making it impossible to tell where the chassis was built.
They were "internationalized" from then on indicating the years beginning with "A" for 1980 models. These later VINs indicate the factory where the chassis was built with a letter, e.g. "M" for Mexico.

Paul Windisch · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:04 am Post subject:

Mexican VINs aren't any different from German cars. My 1984 Mexican Beetle starts with 11E (E denoting 1984), no prefix or suffix. I don't know where that VIN you have came from, but I don't think it came from a Beetle.
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schadenfreude · Banned Joined: August 25, 2011 Posts: 1535

VIN?
a vin in the USA is 17 digits, today. 1981 HHTSA rules.
in 70s and back it's just a S/N. (or call it a non standard VIN) NSVIN.

the rules for S/N varied by all cars and all makes and all markets.
back when.
encoded totally uniquely by said maker, click Technical tab above. for OG.

schadenfreude · Banned Joined: August 25, 2011 Posts: 1535

the 2nd posted link explains , the exclusion rule
for VIN
in 1984 , the cars can be imported , with Mexican coded
non 17 digit vins. (really it's just a SN, Mex, VW SN)

I am not sure the mechanism for that then.
i can see, diplomatic imports? (history of import rules over years is hard to track)
or ?
how they allowed non smog compliant cars in , is not known to me.
but the rules says, clearly (see my link 2)
that if the car complies to saftey and smog from an other country
it can be imported with wrong vin codes. ( back in 84) (after 81 law !)

id bet you'd fail today trying to pull that one off.

wish i could just drive one over the border. (mex to texas)
i have one in South America, and can find many more there, totally rust free.
0.5" rain fall per year there. (only need parts that unbolt changed out)

PedalWerks · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:14 am Post subject:

Thanks to Everybody for replying, I was given that Vin by the Owner, the clutch cables are different length's from early 74 to late 74,

Would that vin# 1842470020 I have be for a 77?

Scott
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Rome · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:53 am Post subject:

Scott, everyone so far missed your last question. Standard Beetles (not Supers) all had the same wheelbase (2400mm or 94 1/2") between German and Mexican production. Even though the chassis length is the same, a big difference is that AFAIK Mex-produced Beetles never got the independant rear suspension (IRS) which US Beetles got as of the '69 model year. Mexi's kept the swingaxle. Furthermore, in '72 or so Beetles got a different transmission. Therefore there are slight differences with the clutch cable lengths. My best guess as to the clutch cable length you'd need based on a US Beetle would be for a '68- namely the last year of swingaxle. Hopefully somebody here with more knowledge of Mexi Beetles can provide a more accurate response.

PedalWerks · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:19 am Post subject:

Bruce · Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:55 am Post subject:

Paul Windisch · Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:19 am Post subject:

schadenfreude · Banned Joined: August 25, 2011 Posts: 1535

the only issues are licensing
every state has different rules from then to now,
vastly complex.


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