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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:21 pm    Post subject: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Hey just got my buggy plated and running and took around block now there is no clutch. I checked and tried adjusting the linkage but it still feels like there is no resistance in the clutch. It is a swing axle trains. Any recommendations. What goes wrong in bell housing.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Does pushing on clutch pedal move the throw out bearing arm? If not the the cable most likely broke. If it movea the arm could have broken inside the bel housing.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

You mean you adjusted the clutch cable? You should have about 1/2" to 1" or so of free play in the pedal before you feel some resistance. If nothing, then I would verify that the clutch arm is moving with the cable - probably is or else the pedal would just fall to the floor. I would drop the engine and see whats going on with the clutch cross shaft and throw out. With a buggy, dropping the engine id pretty trivial.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Cable is good it is moving the arm it's internal it was good when left the won't
Disengage and zero resistance at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

One of two likely problems

Either the throwout bearing has come unclipped from the cross shaft fingers

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Or, one of the fingers has broken on the cross shaft

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In either case, the first step is to yank the engine. Its maybe a twenty minute job, go for it
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

The arms on the cross shaft are only spot welded. That is the original style from the factory. Replacements are now welded all the way around.

This happened to me. This is what I found when I pulled the motor. Both fingers had broken off and fallen.


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Here is a new style available. Much stronger.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

I have motor out many times as I had to grind down the bell to make the 1600 larger clutch fit. I have new question it's a 1958 swing axle tha had a 1200 in it I stripped a 1600 single port out of a merlo spray coupe. I see there is a difference in throw out bearings do I need to change some thing in there to make work. Guys are saying the clutches are wearing through the clips. Any one have done this
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

You sure its 58? That would be a split case, non-synchro first, crash box

Can you tell me more about or post a picture of a Merlot Spray coupe?

Throw out bearings were carbon(graphite) up through 57 and used a clip like this
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This thread covers later throw out bearings

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148307


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

This is what comes up when you do Google Image search for Merlo Spra coup...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Dale M. wrote:
This is what comes up when you do Google Image search for Merlo Spra coup...Dale


If that's powered by a 1600 single port, I'm impressed
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Chain drive?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Sorry mo pics look up melro 105-150 spry coupe and look for three wheeled sprayer. It's not a split case that I see no bolts. Motor is a 58. Pan is a54. Trans no idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Here is buggy and what I found when I pulled motor
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Is this the giant tricycle you are referring to...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

That's be the beast. I got a 150 like that and a105 which is cab less. Found my problem old style throw out bearing and 1970 and newer clutch. My bad now to spend more money to fix my foul up
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch problems Reply with quote

Mikenash_76 wrote:
Found my problem old style throw out bearing and 1970 and newer clutch.


Yep, you got it. You can probably find a good used pressure plate with a centering ring pretty cheap.

If you remove the cross shaft you can probably straighten the bent finger and you might want to get the welds reinforced.

However, there is a second option you can use with your present pressure plate which is actually an upgrade

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1925532

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