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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Tools for Bays Reply with quote

On the Vanagon forum there is a thread for Luxury Tools
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=410934&highlight=tools

Rockerarm suggested a thread for bays.
" ... but wish Everett would start a section on tools, tips, ideas, basic diagnostics, etc."

This is an attempt to get a thread started on common, specialty, and homemade bay tools.

Hopefully we'll soon have a photo of Aeromech's engine run stand and brake bleeder


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure folks have seen this before, and I'm sure there will be some more spectacular additions, but I've found the $2 "brake adjustment tool" invaluable in getting the bales/valve cover springs off and on. No more bloody knuckles!

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Completely worth it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres one tool i got to adjust the valve, did not try it yet but seems like its gonna make the job easier!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brake spring tool

http://www.jcwhitney.com/brake-spring-compressor/p2017860.jcwx?filterid=c21432u0j1

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Tools for Bays Reply with quote

Tom Powell wrote:
On the Vanagon forum there is a thread for Luxury Tools



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a candidate for the best luxury tool...How about this...LUXURY TOOL; 14 carat gold plated 1/4 inch drive craftsman rachet in a nice wooden case with a felt liner ...sears offered them in 2002 to commemorate 75 years of the craftsman name...I will try to get a photo tomorrow..the wife still has all the christmas photos in the camera
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

louis-123 wrote:
heres one tool i got to adjust the valve, did not try it yet but seems like its gonna make the job easier!

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To adjust what valve?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valves.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sure don't see anything there that will work on my valves.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe the idea is that you insert a flat head screwdriver through the hole he has drilled.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotcha! Thanks. I didn't understand the machining in the top picture.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

levi20AE wrote:
i believe the idea is that you insert a flat head screwdriver through the hole he has drilled.


I've looked at those photos and I don't see how that tool would work on valve adjustments. A screwdriver would fit through the hole, but what holds and tightens the locking nut? Better photos of the working end might clarify how it is used. I googled Elite valve adjustment tool, but no results. In the process found this tool on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Tappet-Adjustment...mp;sr=8-42


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The photo shows 8mm, but the description says "Fits any screw-type tappet adjuster with 8mm, 9mm or 10mm adjusting nut combined with either a 3mm, 4mm, square or straight screwdriver type adjusting screw" I don't recall the size of the adjusting nut on the 1600. If it's 10mm this tool should work.

Edit: Word from louis-123 and DBM is the locking nut is 13mm so this tool would not work on a type 1 engine, but it sure is pretty. It looks easy to use: Turn the handle to loosen the nut. Hold the handle with three fingers and turn the knob with thumb and index finger. Insert feeler gauge with the other hand. Turn the knob to adjust and tighten the nut with the handle. Only requires two hands, instead of three for a wrench, screwdriver, and feeler gauge.

For me, I'll stick with my box end wrench and screwdriver.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Powell wrote:
For me, I'll stick with my box end wrench and screwdriver.
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^^^Ditto Tom.^^^
Our box end wrenches can hang on the nut while those other things will fall off if they arn't held. And they are so fancy they would be a bitch to clean off if they fell in the dirt. Laughing
I've always been a bit curious about this other type. First saw them in Rocky Mtn. Motorworks catalog in the '90's. http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D7073%2D11
As far as the one up higher in this thread evidently it has a hex or 12 point socket in the head but it still looks like it has some machining other than just a hole for a screwdriver. Photo doesn't show it real well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its open all thrue, once the bolt is slacked and you can keep the tool hanging from the screw driver and adjust the valve with the screw driver. The 90 degree angle can spare your knuckles. It was bought this way..
Its nothing super special but according to my friend it works really well. havent tried the tool since the bus is stored for winter...

I believe the nut is 13mm.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let us know how well it works and how well you like it Louis. Don't know about T-4's, but T-1's are 13mm.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two crucial tools I acquired early in my VW days were a 13mm S-shaped box end wrench for the rear nut of the carb-intake manifold connection (upright engine) and a 10mm deep offset box end wrench for the intake manifold-to-head nuts on a single port engine. (still the only snap-on tools I own - except for wobble drive socket extensions)

I always tell myself I am going to buy a brake spring tool but still manage with a pair of needle nose pliers...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my home made oil pump puller
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Another tools and tips area on another forum but should have some familiar people.
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewforum.php?f=49
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good metric wrench set and good beer. Everything else falls into place
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ccpalmer wrote:
The two crucial tools I acquired early in my VW days were a 13mm S-shaped box end wrench for the rear nut of the carb-intake manifold connection (upright engine) and a 10mm deep offset box end wrench for the intake manifold-to-head nuts on a single port engine. ,,,


http://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece-metric-s-type-wrench-set-99699.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece-metric-offset-box-wrench-set-32042.html

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: valve adjustment tool Reply with quote

That to bad Tom the motion pros don't come in 13mm. Schley makes this valve adjusting tool. I have a couple of there tools good quality.
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