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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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absolutely beautiful job! I too just found this and was sad to see the last post! haha cant wait to see Wade on the road with this beauty! Quick question on your rag? was that your original middle bow that you refinished or were you able to buy a replacement? I lost mine when I moved cross country. Sad Forgot I didn't have my short rails on and if flew off on a 3 lane freeway.... grant it, it did not survive.


Thanks Smile I'm glad to report that Wade has finally driven his car a couple of times through the neighborhood and has loved every minute of it. No surprise, he's a natural manuvering the air cooled motor & tranny.

We're working through a few issues that have popped up - the turn signal lever broke, carb is leaking a lot (new turn signal switch and 30 pict carb on the way from CIP1) - but we did get it registered & insured today so it's officially legal to drive on the road. He won't be driving it to school on his first day Monday, but it won't be too long before he is.

The middle bow we used is the original one to the car. I'm not aware of anyone repo'ing these pieces, but I haven't really looked for any either. I know 3-fold bows are being reproduced, so maybe someone out there is making 2-fold as well. Here's an ad for a 3-fold bow:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=649762

You may want to contact Francisco at Kaefer-Nostalgie to see if he knows of any being made.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where can opne get the paint mixed up for the correct 1961 Turkis wheel rim paints? either in regular cans or spray cans. My wheel rims need to be done and I would like to do it myself in the original colors. i also will need to do the e=brake lever and gear shift lever in original.

let me know if anyone has leads on this. I know i could take a sample to a paint store, but that gets real expensive with each color.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YouBugMe58 wrote:

Before trash your rear bow, I repaired my front bow with some of the good metal left from the rear bow. Its the right thickness and with a little tweeking with a ball hammer it came out perfect. Look at the last few pages of my build thread. Remember the ending looks does not matter as it get covered up, just use some rust mort or rust preventer to stop it from advancing and paint it for pretection.

Thank you for advice!! I found a supplier of WW products so the rear bow should be no issue. Both original bows though have serious pitting and pox, which you actually cán see through the rag vinyl. So I'm afraid I have some searching to do... Or ask a metal monkey friend to have a go at it.

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I used Bulldog Adhesion Promoter. I initially sprayed one of the visors without the bulldog and the color was patchy, faded and just wouldn't stick properly to the vinyl. It took 4-5 coats of dye to even out the patches, but the color still didn't look right. I sprayed the bulldog on the other visor and the difference was night and day. Color was bright and even, and only required 2 coats of dye.
This link shows the Bulldog product I used, although I didn't buy it from here:
http://www.tooltopia.com/kleanstrip-etpo123b.aspx?...QgodCCIAig

Thanks a lot! Very Happy I'll give it a go!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very great job !!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, at this point I think we've effectively wrapped up the 'build' portion of this project. We spent the past couple months playing with timing, different carbs & adjustments, fuel pressure, tire pressure, brake adjustments and getting it ready for everyday use. While there are a few minor items that we're still working through (seems like there's always a few of those, right?), Wade has officially commandeered the car, and is loving it.

During the tuning, I found that the front end was a bit more squirrley on the freeway than I was comfortable with so I added a Koni steering stabilizer which helped significantly.

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We're still trying to get the 009 timing & carb adjustment 'just right', and it's proving a bit more tricky than I expected with the bigger cam in the motor (I believe that's the culprit). Haven't found that sweet spot just yet, but it's running well in the mean time. Seems like we either sacrifice the idle quality for power, or we sacrifice power for a smooth idle - I'd like to have both. Is that too much to ask?

Here's a couple pics of Wade with the finished product. Notice that big grin on his face. Mom is happy too as she can finally park her car in the garage for the first time in a few years, and I can get back to my 56 oval and start planning for my 13 year old son's ghia Smile Cheers

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet / Beautiful Job. I have a soft spot for BRMs and RagTops. VW Logo
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read through the entire thread, great job!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorgeous car, inspirational and educational thread. thanks for posting this build.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weezle wrote:
gorgeous car, inspirational and educational thread. thanks for posting this build.


Thank you, glad it's useful to you.

Good time for a status update. This summer I decided to go a different direction with the engine. While it runs great, the stock 40hp was just too underpowered for all the hills and traffic here so we pulled it out and are in the middle of a vintage speed rebuild. Here are the specs:

1. Set of cherry, rebuilt 40hp Okrasa heads
2. WW intake manifolds (they fit perfectly in all ways on the original Okrasa heads)
3. Joe Ruiz rebuilt 32 PBIC WW carbs
2. Big bore 40hp P&Cs
3. NOS stock 64mm crank, drilled for 8 dowels
4. 10lb, 8 dowel 12v flywheel
5. Performance cam (110 equivalent)
6. Abarth style 4 tip muffler custom built by Steph Lhonneux for stale air 40hp (still waiting to receive)
7. Fram blue oil filter & copper spiral cooler
8. Bosch 019 Blue Screamer rebuilt by Glenn

The case was cleaned then drilled & tapped by Justin at Blackline for the Fram oil return line. I'm currently reassembling the long block. Still need to weld the bell crank to the fan shroud, trim the cylinder tins for the manifolds, powder coat, and receive & install the 4 tip once it arrives. I'll post some pictures of the completed engine when it's ready.

Also added a tach to the dash. Still need to trim down the chrome strip and reattach to the grill, but I like the look.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laneven28 wrote:
Weezle wrote:
gorgeous car, inspirational and educational thread. thanks for posting this build.

The case was cleaned then drilled & tapped by Justin at Blackline


I've been really happy with all the work I've had done at Blackline, stand up guys there.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to let Justin at Blackline build the 40hp Okrasa for me. I want it done right. Packed up the car with all the parts last weekend, and dropped them off at his shop. Can't wait to drive it with this power plant!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I decided to let Justin at Blackline build the 40hp Okrasa for me. I want it done right. Packed up the car with all the parts last weekend, and dropped them off at his shop. Can't wait to drive it with this power plant


It's in good hands, I have had great experiences in the past with Justin and the rest of the crew at Blackline.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I decided to let Justin at Blackline build the 40hp Okrasa for me. I want it done right. Packed up the car with all the parts last weekend, and dropped them off at his shop. Can't wait to drive it with this power plant


It's in good hands, I have had great experiences in the past with Justin and the rest of the crew at Blackline.


Same here. Justin, Dave & the team are top notch at what they do and are just good guys.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

40hp Okrasa is getting close

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lookin' good!
You'll be painting the tin black, correct?

Went back a couple pages to try to find out, but . . . . could you please tell me the sizes of those tires on the BRMs?
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lookin' good!
You'll be painting the tin black, correct?

Went back a couple pages to try to find out, but . . . . could you please tell me the sizes of those tires on the BRMs?


Yea, Justin was test fitting the cylinder tins to make sure they fit the manifolds, and will weld the bell crank to the fan shroud. Once done, I'll have them powder coated black.

Tire sizes on the BRMs:
Fronts - 175/55R15
Rears - 185/60R15
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice documentation on your 3-year build, great job. The photo updates were awesome and keep us posted on the Okrasa motor. I understand those motors can run the cost of a premium paint job!
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vwnut1 wrote:
Nice documentation on your 3-year build, great job. The photo updates were awesome and keep us posted on the Okrasa motor. I understand those motors can run the cost of a premium paint job!


Thanks man, appreciate the kind words. Okrasa parts are certainly not cheap, especially for the good stuff, and can be tough to find. I definitely had to save my pennies for this one. Can't wait to drive it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tire sizes on the BRMs:
Fronts - 175/55R15
Rears - 185/60R15

Thank you!! Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stopped by Blackline today to see how the engine is coming along. Justin has been fitting oil lines, clearancing the linkage, and making sure all the parts made for a 36hp work properly with the 40hp set up. He is welding the bell crank to the fan shroud today so tins will be off to powder coat early next week. Getting closer!

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