Sheared off bleeder valve. Now what?

Malokin Martin

Stupid stupid stupid. Lower bleeder valve sheared off during brake bleed. I WAS CAREFUL... Just not careful enough. It was the last one and was stuck. Slow pressure with the wrench and it sheared off. It did not turn and is not leaking. It broke flush with the caliper.

Is the whole caliper f***ed? Do folks have a general price tag on something like this?

I'm taking it in on Monday. Just wanted to know what I'm in for.

1972 bus.

Front right (passenger)

Malokin Martin · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject:

I am just kicking myself for this.

birddog1148 · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php
Not to bad here
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Malokin Martin · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:13 pm Post subject:

birddog1148 · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject:

RAYBESTOS Part # FRC3075 Friction Ready - Pads Not Included, Remanufactured; Professional Grade; Bore Size=2.12" Inlet Thread=M10X1 Bleeder Thread=M7X1
ATE Brake System; Front Right

$52.79 $10.00 $62.79
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RAYBESTOS Part # FRC3076 Friction Ready - Pads Not Included, Remanufactured; Professional Grade; Bore Size=2.12" Inlet Thread=M10X1 Bleeder Thread=M7X1
ATE Brake System; Front Left

$52.79 $10.00 $62.79
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CENTRIC Part # 14133108 Reman; Premium Semi-Loaded Caliper
Fr 8/72 - To 12/72; Girling; Front Left

$33.79 $30.00 $63.79
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CENTRIC Part # 14133107 Reman; Premium Semi-Loaded Caliper
Fr 8/72 - To 12/72; Girling; Front Right

$33.79 $30.00 $63.79
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CENTRIC Part # 14133110 Reman; Premium Semi-Loaded Caliper
ATE; Fr 8/72 - To 12/72; Front Left

$41.79 $35.00 $76.79
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CENTRIC Part # 14133109 Reman; Premium Semi-Loaded Caliper
ATE; Fr 8/72 - To 12/72; Front Right

$41.79 $35.00 $76.79
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NASTRA Part # 12453 Semi-Loaded; Reman
Front; ATE; Left (Only 1 Remaining)

$45.79 $37.00 $82.79
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Here are some of them, more if you look them up. Prices are price, core, total
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Alex6373 · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject:

Do a google search for a easy out and it should remove it

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Malokin Martin · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject:

Bird: so I'm hearing that it's a new caliper if they can't back it out? It seems like some adds say 68-72, some say 71-72 and some say 73-80. Who is correct? I'd like to source the parts myself if they're doing a replacement. Additionally should I get 2 to do it "right"?

What about here?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1235831

Auto: that's pretty neat there. I don't know if they make a tap small enough though.

birddog1148 · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject:

You can always try the easy out and if it works great. Rock Auto was a track sponsor at a track I used to race at and they carry a LOT of stuff. If I was going to replace one I would probobly do both sides.

I am operating under the thought that you are going to replace the calliper yourself if you cant get the bleader out.
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'69 Baja, Crusty 62 bug

I Got Your Jeep Thing! Now It Hurts When I pee.

Cigarettes are like squirrels, they are both harmless until you put one in your mouth and light it on fire.

Malokin Martin · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject:

I'm thinking I may bunt this one before I do more damage. Requires a bit more time, a shop (out of the rain/snow) and a special spreader for the caliper which I don't have. Hopefully they can back it out.

If I do need new ones: it Appears that the calipers are 71-72 only? Can someone confirm?

Thanks for the great feedback!

busdaddy · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject:

GusC2it · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject:

If yours has a bleeder on the top and bottom, you're in luck! Just swap the right and left caliber, and you'll have a bleeder on the top again! Cool

wait a minuet! You said bottom bleeder. You can't bleed from the bottom one. It's probably never been opeded. Thats why it sheared off!!
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Malokin Martin · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject:

GusC2it · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject:

Mal, you may have missed my last post!
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Joey · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject:

Malokin Martin · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject:

GusC2it · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject:

Joey, yes he can and should bleed from the top. The reason there is a top and bottom bleeder is so you can use the caliber on either side.
They are the same.
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Joey · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject:

Right.... it's a '72. d'oh!

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SGKent · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject:

most likely if it was tight enough to snap it will never come out without damaging the seat so you will have to repair or replace it. I would not waste the time stressing over it. As suggested you can try to bleed with the other screw. Look - you can even take the disc off or use an old one, stick the caliper on it and have someone hold it upside down and bleed at the same time then stick it on. It doesn't have to be on the actual disk to bleed it - all you need do is hold the pistons in with a spare diskand the pads. In the meantime watch for a good used one and replace the whole caliper. You can try various extractors but I think you will only get frustrated and in deeper. I am not saying it can't be removed, just it may be harder than you realize to get it out since it was in tight enough to snap.
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tristessa · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:05 pm Post subject:

Is it leaking fluid from the now-broken bleeder? If no, leave it alone and put the caliper on the "replace it someday" list. And you don't need the fancy spreader tool to replace the pads, a wood shim from the hardware store (to protect the piston & seals) and a big F-ing screwdriver to pry with has worked for me for years as long as the piston isn't seized in the caliper. (if it is, replace/rebuild the caliper)

greenbus pilot · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject:

Try the repair bleeder from a FLAPS- they really work well, and only takes about 30 minutes to do. Then you can actually bleed it properly again.
I have done a few valves like that and lived to tell about it.
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