Early panel hinge covers and seals?

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I'm restoring a 1960 Double Door Panel and it has the metal dealies that go behind the hinges on the cargo doors. If I remember correctly there should be rubber seals that go between the body and this cover...anyone know where to find them or have photos of them that I can see so I can try to make some?
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Clara · Samba Member Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12400

Ronnie had those seals a while back, hit him up.
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Oldbug.com · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:36 am Post subject: seals

Thanks Clara...he says he is out of stock for the next few weeks. Hopefully he can get them. If anyone has a photo though I would love to see it. If it is just flat rubber it would be easy enough to make them.
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campingbox · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject:

Gallery search for cargo and wedge:

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Oldbug.com · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: Thanks

cool...so my memory of them is right...a molded piece. I searched the gallery but not "wedge"...thanks Greg.

Anyone have any decent used ones or should I just wait for Ronnie to get em? (I think I know my answer already...)
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earlywesty · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject:

What function do those serve? When were they used?

Oldbug.com · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: why

Im not sure exactly what years they were used or exactly why...but they fill in the gap between the body and the hinge to make it look a bit cleaner.
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type241 · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: WEDGY

On a 1960 Bus the forward cargo door hinges(both upper and lower) have a wedge painted to match body with those seals above going underneath. The hinges themselves are countersunk for flathead screw and have a panel nut to secure them.

The million dollar question: What is the wedge function? I have no clue.

I couldn't think of any other progressive refinement that reverted a part/change back to the PRIOR model like the wedge.

Oldbug.com · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:27 pm Post subject: 60

Was it only 1960?

And on all models or just the Panels?

Looking at my hinges it looks like all of them have the countersunk hole front and back...yet I only have the covers for the front...which I guess is correct?
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type241 · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject:

1960 only. My 15 Window has them in front only. Vin #581XXX
I also had a 1960 panel and it had them only in front while all four hinges had the countersunk hole

Oldbug.com · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject:

Hmm...interesting!

Thanks for the info!
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type241 · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject:

1960 only is why Ronnie(Splitpile) has a lead on them seals. He was collecting only 1960 Busses wasn't he.
And as far as the rear hinges, at first I thought I was missing the rears then I was educated by Ronnie(I believe) that the hinges could be swapped for a double door bus, so all hinges got the countersunk hole(?).

Funny thing is I haven't even looked at the back hinges on my 15w yet Confused

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Just went and checked my 15w and YES it has the countersunk holes in rear hinges with no evidence of hinge cover wedge.

EverettB · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject:

I believe it's 1960 and later, everything that is high hinge from 1960-on.

My '61 high hinge Double Cab has them.

Yes, it's only on the front.

I believe it's for safety as the big hinges were deemed dangerous(?) but then VW went to low/small hinge and solved that issue.
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hitest · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject:

Okay- I'm trying to channel a wee bit o' Lind here. Stay with me. I read a couple decades ago that those wedges were a safety requirement by some European agency in that the hinges stuck out so far- damage to people alongside was eminent. The hinge covers act as meat spoilers, if you will.

I'll accept my licks if that's the most ridiculous thing you ever heard...
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Eric&Barb · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject:

We have a walk thru panel camper conversion built DEC59 and only the lower front cargo door hinge has the hole for the cover. Cargo doors look to be original, and have seen a few other panels with same single front lower hinge with mounting hole.
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type241 · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject:

So Everett is saying all 1960 and 1961 had the wedges. If so, you would think a lot more would of survived. I will definitely look at ALL 1961ish buses from now on that is for sure.

Aiko · Samba Member Joined: July 11, 2007 Posts: 476

Both front and rear have the holes but only fronts got metal covers. I have an original paint May 60 Deluxe with it's original covers.

This subject has been discussed before, read entire thread below;

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2...mp;start=0


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