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bfreckman Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2011 Posts: 38 Location: Azle, Texas
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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Folks,
I would like to replace the newer, flater black knob window cranks with the older style ivory knob style that mounts with a cross pin.
Is there a window regulator (or just the part that has the splined post) that is drilled for the older style crank that will fit my newer ('71) Beetle?
I have mused on drilling the splined post, but the pin hole is offset, and for me, a real bear to drill....
Can I simply replace the entire window regulator part???
Thanks for any info....
Bill in Euless, TX |
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chadmark88 Samba Member
Joined: October 31, 2015 Posts: 51 Location: Northport AL
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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I'd like to know the answer to THIS question also.
I've done a search, but can't seem to find a good answer - I saw on another website, someone saying the "older style" can be drilled to accept the "newer style" handles. ( but they didn't go into much detail ) _________________ 1969 Autostick - Savannah Beige / Brown Interior
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heimlich VWNOS.com
Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 6621 Location: Houston, Texas
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chadmark88 Samba Member
Joined: October 31, 2015 Posts: 51 Location: Northport AL
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:00 am Post subject: Re: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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Yes, that's the older style ( 1966 and older ) does anyone know what has to be done to put that one on a 1969 door ? _________________ 1969 Autostick - Savannah Beige / Brown Interior
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67jason Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2005 Posts: 4741 Location: behind my back feet - Pittsburg CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:09 am Post subject: Re: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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put a 65-67 window regulator in your 69 door. _________________ 67 bug x3
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chadmark88 Samba Member
Joined: October 31, 2015 Posts: 51 Location: Northport AL
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:13 am Post subject: Re: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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67jason wrote: |
put a 65-67 window regulator in your 69 door. |
I know that would probably work, but I'd like to find out if anyone on here has done it. _________________ 1969 Autostick - Savannah Beige / Brown Interior
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vwkirb Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2007 Posts: 812 Location: Athens, GA
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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Its not that simple. The doors went through a lot of changes.
I have a 68 door on my 74 with a 68 regulator and 74 door latches... and yeah nothing fit right. It's not quite bolt on. _________________ Andrew Kirby |
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chadmark88 Samba Member
Joined: October 31, 2015 Posts: 51 Location: Northport AL
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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I'm doing searches to see if anyone makes a reproduction of an Ivory knob that fits on the 68-up beetle. ALSO, there might be an older Ivory Porsche handle that will fit on my 1969 Beetle spline. _________________ 1969 Autostick - Savannah Beige / Brown Interior
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bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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As I recall, the splined shafts are the same, except for the pin groove (its a groove, not a hole). Id think a cleaver lerson could take a fike, or dremel and cut a groove, taking care to not allow chips of metal into the shaft bearing.
attempts to drill using the handle as a guide may not work, as the handle is pot metal, the shaft steel, so the drill will likely wobble about and enlarge the soft pot metal hand,es hole, then the pin would no longer stay tight.
so file or grind a groove for the pin in the shaft. the stock shafts had the groove 360 devress around, but you only need it were the pin lines up.
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Older window cranks (pinned) for newer style with screws. |
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use a tap to put threads in the hole and use a set screw to hold it on.
like this, available at your local hardware store
https://www.boltdepot.com/Set_screws_Allen_Cup_point_Stainless_steel_18-8_4-40.aspx _________________ Rick
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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