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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Exterior Sliding Door Handle Questions (and anyone got one?) Reply with quote

Hi All, I guess the freeze + me > tensile stength of outer sliding door handle and it snapped.

Question:
- I found the steps to remove the handles, but can anyone confirm whether or not the lock barrel is transferable to a replacement?

- Anyone got one lying around that they want to sell me cheap? Can't stomach $80 - $100 for a new one!

Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the classifieds.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?...ton=Search

The lock I guess can be switched from handle to handle
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When I painted my handles, I removed the lock cylinder and replaced it without too much trouble. I remember the sliding door handle lock cylinder being just a bit tricky for some reason that escapes me at the moment.

I guess what I'm saying is yes, you can swap your lock cylinder into a new handle.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Switching the lock cylinder is easy. Pull the handle, there's a tiny set screw in the side, usually covered by grime.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Exterior Sliding Door Handle Questions (and anyone got o Reply with quote

Since you only need the shorter later handle you should find a used one with ease for around $40. 80-84 used a longer handle known for snapping off. You need the 85-91 shorter one that only rarely break.

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thewump wrote:
Hi All, I guess the freeze + me > tensile stength of outer sliding door handle and it snapped.

Question:
- I found the steps to remove the handles, but can anyone confirm whether or not the lock barrel is transferable to a replacement?

- Anyone got one lying around that they want to sell me cheap? Can't stomach $80 - $100 for a new one!

Thanks in advance

Keith (in Denver)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The short sliding door handles you can buy new. Check our Vanagon vendors. Here is one example here.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not forget the after market "grommet." I have brain fade, but I know you can get them at fleaharbor. Like $20 but keeps the handle fitting well. I am sure someone else will remember better than me.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

r39o wrote:
Do not forget the after market "grommet." I have brain fade, but I know you can get them at fleaharbor. Like $20 but keeps the handle fitting well. I am sure someone else will remember better than me.


I got mine on ebay
VW DELRIN Vanagon sliding door handle bushing spacer 92 (300301769275)
Seller: Member id mark1svc

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too just broke off my side door handle in the 'Great Seattle Snowstorm of 2012'. Smile

New OEM handles are available at Bus Depot for $70 and the rubber escutcheon is $8.

I called their service department about replacing the original lock and they said they didn't think it was possible. I checked here at the Samba and the general opinion is that it is possible, though there was some uncertainty about it. Has anyone here successfully replaced their side door lock into a new side door handle?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vsyevolod wrote:
I too just broke off my side door handle in the 'Great Seattle Snowstorm of 2012'. Smile

New OEM handles are available at Bus Depot for $70 and the rubber escutcheon is $8.

I called their service department about replacing the original lock and they said they didn't think it was possible. I checked here at the Samba and the general opinion is that it is possible, though there was some uncertainty about it. Has anyone here successfully replaced their side door lock into a new side door handle?

Stephen
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Yes, you can remove the lock from your broken handle and install it in a replacement handle.

The Bus Depot has a "Service Department"???

Based solely upon that answer I would NOT be asking them any additional Vanagon repair questions! Wink Ron is a big supporter of the Vanagon community but I don't believe they are in the service/repair business.

If you want a good used handle check with Kirk @ North Westy in Renton or Jamal @ Absolute German in South Seattle.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vsyevolod wrote:
...and the rubber escutcheon is $8.


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I *highly* recommend the Delrin bushing mentioned above. It'll completely change the feel of your handle from floppy to square and precise. The effect is most pronounced ont he old style doors, but it helps the new ones too. It's one of the best $20 I've ever spent on my van.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: Another vote on the Delrin escutcheon Reply with quote

You guys convinced me--and I hated how loose Winston's exterior door handle always felt. Ordered the Delrin bushing off of E-bay, he has TWO offered, for the early and the late. Mark at once sent a note it was on its way, and to look for a little green-labeled package, which arrived today.

Inside that (the package itself shows a clever mind) was a useful little blue sheet of instructions, which I followed. I have a right angle ratchet screw driver, so I only had to loosen Winston's interior sliding door panel a bit to get that in to remove the outer handle's screw. Mark suggests using motor oil to lubricate the Delrin, I was worried about the acid in 'detergent' motor oil and used white lithium, Mark answered my note and thanks by saying that the Lithium dries out and the oil is safe for Delrin. I did use BLUE Loc-Tite on the screws for both door handles, both of which were loose...

Shocked

The improvement is incredible. It no longer feels like the handle's about to fall off the door every time I use it. Mark is doing a very good thing by supporting the Vanagon community with a useful, well-thought out upgrade product.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny, I just put mine on yesterday after reading this thread Smile

The handle now feels solid. Would recommend Marks bushing to everyone, especially if you have people other than yourself opening the door
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do you tell if you need a round one or an oval one??
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vsyevolod wrote:
I called their service department about replacing the original lock and they said they didn't think it was possible. I checked here at the Samba and the general opinion is that it is possible, though there was some uncertainty about it. Has anyone here successfully replaced their side door lock into a new side door handle?


What uncertainty? I stated that it was easy and then gave the pertinent info on how. Yes, I've replaced the lock cylinder on several vanagon handles. It takes less than 15 minutes if you know what you're doing.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

70coupyel wrote:
The short sliding door handles you can buy new. Check our Vanagon vendors. Here is one example here.


Hmmm, what's the link?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click on the word "Here"!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. It takes me to a camera control....

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Yup. It takes me to a camera control....

AXIS 214 PTZ Network Camera


Those AXIS Cameras are fun to play with. Looks cold there. I didn't see any Vanagon parts though...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys. I fixed the link.
A few years ago the early(long) sliding door handle was NLA. Now you can buy them. I got a back up one off ebay a few years ago.
edit: You have to click on my OG link. The one in the quotes does not work.

http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=251843704
http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_1152_162/door_handles___outer_sliding_door_handle.html
http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=2229&category_id=217&category_parent_id=
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