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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

Hi guys! I have a Oil Filter just like this one:

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Can I use it with a classic full flow system? (The oil goes from the oil pump to the filter, than back inside the engine?

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Maybe on a 1776?Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy Very Happy

Thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can probably use it, but I would be concerned about the flow rate of oil through filter.... What are size of connection fittings.... If they are small you may have serious restriction issues....

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a by-pass filter as a full-flow filter? No. Absolutely not.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the answers! So I can't use it like a normal full flow, ok...but, Can I use it (in the original by-pass circuit) plus a normal full flow filter?

Thanks again! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gears wrote:
Use a by-pass filter as a full-flow filter? No. Absolutely not.


If you want, you can pull oil from the oil pressure sending unit port and feed to the bypass filter, from there, drain down to a hole in the generator stand.

And yes you could use it with a full flow filter setup but really it's just there for looks now right?? Smile nit cannot filter like the new filters can and they also filter ALL the oil.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

I also have a Fram F3P filter unit and love tro use it as a custom Full Flow filter replacement. I Currently have a normal full flow filter and i would love to modify the Fram unit to do the job.

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I'm thinking of welding bigger in and outlet plugs to the fram and use a different replacement filter(K&N maybe??). There should be a cartridge filter with the corrent dimencions..

http://www.knfilters.com/kn/cartridge_oil_filter.aspx

The tricky part will be to remove and reinstall the center tube of the fram housing so it can be drilled with holes and create some flow in it.

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Thoughts anyone? This uinit looks cool, it keeps my filter inside the enginebay and it's a nice custom plan. If possible that is...

Really hope for positive input...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

Anything is possible with enough money and determination. I'm not sure the housing would stand up to full pump pressure on a cold start up though. Actually, I really doubt it would hold
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

Change of plans. The Fram will be a breatherbox. It tuns out i need one and this is a nice way to do so.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

DJ Pierre wrote:
Change of plans. The Fram will be a breatherbox. It tuns out i need one and this is a nice way to do so.


That's a cool idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

vwkirb wrote:
DJ Pierre wrote:
Change of plans. The Fram will be a breatherbox. It tuns out i need one and this is a nice way to do so.


That's a cool idea.


I have one that I was going to use to hide the aftermarket coil but a breather is an even better idea!!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

First scetch. I'm in doubt if valvecover 3-4 should be vented since there is a lot more oil than there is in the 1-2 side. I'm also unshure how to do the returnline yet.

Maybe this topic is something to follow. KrankVent valves:
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=118958

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

I seem to recall somebody did this a few months ago but he did not show details. Perhaps he will chime in...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

From what I understand don't vent the 3/4, just the 1/2, and if that not enough vent it again. (So yes 2x)

Running to the alt stand is okay, fuel pump location is better. Could also drain directly to the sump.


This is good motivation for me, I need to get on venting my 1/2 cover. It doesn't seem to much like blast to 5.5k with out spitting some out.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

Ok, here's version two:

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No headvents whatsoever, i've been warned they just wont help. Just an extra case vent should be perfect.

I'm planning to use pcv valves so the air flow will be controlled in the right direction.

Only thing is where to create the new case hole. Fuelpump location is most logical but i do like the old style fuelpump in my engine...

Would an extra hole in the alt stand be sufficient? Shurely hope so...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

I'd do it like the:

Side 1 to air cleaner

It would probably be benificial to place these other two lower:
Side 2 from alt stand
Side 3 from 1/2 valve cover

Bottom return to sump / case, fuel pump area will work for this.

I think the most advantageous thing about using that housing for this is that it's large and leaves plenty of separation space.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche fram oil filter with full flow? Reply with quote

vwkirb wrote:
I'd do it like the:

Side 1 to air cleaner

It would probably be benificial to place these other two lower:
Side 2 from alt stand
Side 3 from 1/2 valve cover

Bottom return to sump / case, fuel pump area will work for this.

I think the most advantageous thing about using that housing for this is that it's large and leaves plenty of separation space.


And lets's not forget, the Fram housing looks ace...

Not so shure about venting the 1/2 side though. It's a V2/8 trick but these have the valvecovers as highest point of the engine. Boxers don't. I've read a debate over this matter and it makes sence not to vent the valvecovers.

Main question remains if the alt stand could be sufficient to act as breather?
Or should i ditch the pierburgpump. Wich i really rathter don't for looks and practicality. I know it would be the best spot for breathing but enough should do the trick. It's not like my engine does 7000rpm. But it's still a 1998cc type1.

I am thinking/hoping of drilling two holes in the predefined spots at the centre of the tower. And use the biggest nipples i can. This would be perfect for me. But can it work?

If i do have to ditch the fuel pump, i have have to figure out something for the electronic fuelpump. I have the old style kopper fuelline and it's been used by the eberspacher also.

I found a few options but it's not perfect. I would like to see these solutions combined:

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