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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13957 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:46 am Post subject: Wolfsburg West Okrasa kit - Feedback Thread |
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I've taken this unusual step of setting up a feedback thread on these repro Wolfsburg West twin port heads. If you have personal experience of these repro heads, please contribute to this new topic.
They, I believe, have sold very well so there should be enough information and feedback from actual users to come to a reliable conclusion.
WW please note: I have no personal agenda in starting this topic other than getting an accurate assessment to address questions that have in the past been asked and continue to be asked of this product. _________________ John.
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James D Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2007 Posts: 230 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:30 am Post subject: |
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On my WW kit, it was discovered that the seating area for one of the cylinders was very thin (2mm), and there was concern about getting blow by. In the end, bigger cylinders and flycut heads were used to get around the problem. Also, it was found that a couple of the valves were leaky, and the top of one of the manifolds - between the manifold and the carb - was badly distorted, presumably from the welding process and had to be filed flat, by hand, to eliminate the huge air leak that was occuring. I found it impossible to get the carbs to open fully with the linkage supplied, and had to move one of the pivot points to get the carbs anywhere near fully open. I havenīt yet resolved that issue. |
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hazetguy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10773 Location: iT StiNgeD iTseLf tO dEAd
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=363242 _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
hazetguy: invested?
thebucket: Yeah Haze, its where people put money into a company in hopes of a return on their money |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76939 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13957 Location: Southampton U.K.
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EMPIFLAKE Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2007 Posts: 1493
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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John Moxon wrote: |
Hmmm yes to be honest I did forget about that topic but I was hoping we could get basic feedback without the baggage of in depth dissection and adaptation of the kit.
Nothing wrong with the topic you've highlighted but I was aiming more at feedback for the average Joe who would like to know if the kit is a "bolt-up and go."
Just simpler style Pros and Cons from the people who have bought the kit. Let's see how it goes. |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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9K on mine so far Just had it out for a cruise and the GPS said I hit 90 MPH
I put a roller pedal in mine to help with the full throttle(old style linkage)
Been on a couple 1000 mile trips in it with no problems and~ 30MPG~ _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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EMPIFLAKE Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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60ragtop wrote: |
9K on mine so far Just had it out for a cruise and the GPS said I hit 90 MPH
I put a roller pedal in mine to help with the full throttle(old style linkage)
Been on a couple 1000 mile trips in it with no problems and~ 30MPG~ |
Are you rollin the kit straight outta the box? Did you do anything asfar as rebuilding your 36 in anyway?? |
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Not Safari Izzy Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 837 Location: Santa Clara, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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~2,000 miles into the first kit sold and no problems...it's been a joy each and every time.
It was bolted onto a rebuilt stock 36hp in minutes straight from the WW box and ran decent with no adjustments. I found it easy to tune & sync the carbs along with setting up the OG style linkage (done warm)...longest trip 500 miles, it loved it and wanted dessert. _________________ DBK Nor Cal
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Out of the box bolt on ran good. CSP linkage needed some tweeking to get equal and full throttle. After beating on it for a while took the heads off for chamber work, porting and decking and found the intake valve keeper grooves were hammered and the intake springs lost some of their seat pressure. Of course we were running it at 5000 and 5500 rpm and had some valve float.
The engine is in my daily driver SC and still runs great even after making 5 passes at Bonneville, takes a beating and keeps on ticking _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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"no more hacking my sig line"
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Flavio Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2008 Posts: 414 Location: Madeira Island, Portugal
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:27 am Post subject: |
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12 000 Km (7 000 miles) since March 2011;
Stock crank and cam;
Rebuilt engine (crank and rod bearings, P&C)
External bypass oil filter.
No problems with the heads. It was a general good fit, except the accelerator cable mecanism (OG style). It was necessary to put there some small ball bearings in order to have a good and free rotation movement of the vertical cylinder where the accel cable attaches. With this litle mod it can get a full throtlle situation.
The stock jetting with the PBICs was too big/rich for an "internal" stock engine. Still trying to find a better set up with the carbs jets.
Max speed ? 130 Km/h
I'm very happy with it .
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kissa2495 Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2010 Posts: 8 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Didnt think of leak testing my WW heads until i read this tread, all of my valves where leaking, seems like exhaust valves are the worst.
Kristian
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gimmesomeshelter Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2004 Posts: 1466 Location: San Carlos, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hello-
Any comments about the repro Solex carbs? When the kit first cam out, Mr. Okrasa pointed out that they needed some work right out of the box to work properly (I believe the thottle bushings were leaking). Has anyone else had this, or other problems with the WW carbs?
Cheers,
Paul _________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned."
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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gimmesomeshelter wrote: |
Hello-
Any comments about the repro Solex carbs? When the kit first cam out, Mr. Okrasa pointed out that they needed some work right out of the box to work properly (I believe the thottle bushings were leaking). Has anyone else had this, or other problems with the WW carbs?
Cheers,
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I just cleaned all the casting flash out of 2 sets and had to reset the throttle shaft butterflys on 2 of them. I'm also making some throttle shaft washers.
The ones on my daily driver are holding up great. Did have a few leaks when first installed but were easily fixed. _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
www.BUSTORATION.com metal and more for your bus
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13957 Location: Southampton U.K.
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I started fresh with mine. 69.5 crank, brgs, cam & lifters, rebuilt rods. Stock 77mm low mileage p&c which I just re-ringed. I set the CR to 8-1. I took apart the carbs and cleaned them up a bit. Also re-jetted them, I am at 4500' _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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Ian Samba Moderator
Joined: August 28, 2002 Posts: 4932 Location: 713
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:09 am Post subject: |
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My customer bought a very well used and beaten down 36hp which I then slapped the WW kit on. Ran fine no complaints. I think it even had a cracked ring on number 2 CSP linkage was easy to setup and tune. Quality seemed top notch. No complaints here!! My customer later disassembled and sold the kit. _________________ All your Buses are belong to us.
Love and good roads!
IN LOVING MEMORY OF ROB CRESS 1968-2012
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oldbusboy Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2006 Posts: 604 Location: Bowen Island, BC Canada
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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An easy 15hp + improvement _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
www.BUSTORATION.com metal and more for your bus
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
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