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juanb Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2009 Posts: 535 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: Another hidden space: Westy cutlery drawer |
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With the prospect of spending a year in the van, I'm in the mindset of using every available bit of space.
The following is is an idea that I've had for a while, and finally this weekend was able to make it happen. I thought about this while looking at the very helpful disassembly pictures that davideric9 posted to this thread:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=334649
If you look at the area left of the burners, there is some empty space in there:
The back of it is ventilation for the fridge, but we're not going to go so far that it matters.
The first thing I did, because I know my craftmanship can be laughably bad, was to procure an extra stove front plate. I got it from the classifieds, I think it was $25 or so:
Then I marked how far I wanted to go, and attacked it with a jigsaw:
My strategy is usually "measure once, cut three times". Make sure to never hire me for anything that doesn't have an undo button
I went to Home Depot, and after a couple of hours of looking of inspiration, I settled on this thing, it's a roof gutter of some sort. What mattered to me was that it is metal, it has a 90 degree bend alongside, and one of the sides is about 2 inches tall:
By making cuts on the longer side and bending it I built this box, which is about 12"x4":
Not pictured here, but I epoxyed it in place, and left it clamped overnight.
I made a wooden front, which I sanded until it fit snugly in the stove front. Here they are, pictured in my paint booth:
After a couple of coats. I painted the table legs as well.
When the paint was dry, I attached the front to the drawer using a handle that screws from behind, and then lined the drawer with some black rubber material so the stuff inside doesn't rattle too much. I also put some of that low friction tape that I used on the slider door, on the bottom and edges of the drawer.
Voila, a new cutlery drawer:
Now I can use the main drawer under the sink for other stuff. I'm not too worried about heat, this is relatively far from the flame, separated by two layers of metal, plus my drawer itself is metal. So I should be ok.
The paint I used was Rustoleum Satin Granite, it is here if you scroll down a bit:
http://painting123.com/ProductInfo.asp?p2=I7
It's a bit darker than stock, but I don't mind it. My bad craftmanship shows a little bit, but it isn't too bad. And when compared to my stock stove plate, it is a noticeable improvement. The old plate had that greenish grey color that most original westy stoves have by now.
Here it is closed:
_________________ 1989 Westy AT, 2.2 GoWesty.
We drove it to Argentina: http://www.vanenvan.com |
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Rhinoculips Samba Member

Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 918 Location: Keystone, Colorado
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Job well done!
Now, does the drawer stay closed on a hard left turn with just the friction tape? _________________ “May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds.” - Edward Abbey
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juanb Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2009 Posts: 535 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Rhinoculips wrote: |
Now, does the drawer stay closed on a hard left turn with just the friction tape? |
Haven't driven with it yet. But the drawer front fits snugly in the metal front, so I don't expect it to be a problem. It it is, I'll try to figure something out  _________________ 1989 Westy AT, 2.2 GoWesty.
We drove it to Argentina: http://www.vanenvan.com |
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outwesty Samba Member

Joined: June 06, 2006 Posts: 1073 Location: Tahoe City
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Nicely done. I did not know that space was there. My next project is to open up some more space where the westy water tank is. I plan to make a smaller (2 gal) tank and make the upper storage enclosures deeper. _________________ www.outwesty.com Vanagon / Syncro Repair in Tahoe City, CA |
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randywebb Samba Member

Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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4 X 4 X 9" ?? _________________ 1986 2.1L Westy 2wd Auto Trans. |
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Microbusdeluxe  Samba Member

Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 961 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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"roof gutter of some sort" It's called metal flashing, used under roof shingles to protect edges & direct water. Comes in various sizes. Nice job! _________________ '69 Squareback RIP
'65 21 window deluxe sold before the price spike, damn it.
'70 rhd bay now a taxi in South Sudan
'81 Westy sold
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juanb Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2009 Posts: 535 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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randywebb wrote: |
4 X 4 X 9" ?? |
Not sure what you're asking. The drawer is 4x2x12". The front piece of wood is about 4.5"x2.5", minus the bit I sanded off for it to fit in the stove plate. _________________ 1989 Westy AT, 2.2 GoWesty.
We drove it to Argentina: http://www.vanenvan.com |
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juanb Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2009 Posts: 535 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Microbusdeluxe wrote: |
"roof gutter of some sort" It's called metal flashing, used under roof shingles to protect edges & direct water. Comes in various sizes. Nice job! |
Ahh yes. Thanks. I was just running around HD looking for ideas, and found that in the roofing section  _________________ 1989 Westy AT, 2.2 GoWesty.
We drove it to Argentina: http://www.vanenvan.com |
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vannin Samba Member

Joined: January 07, 2011 Posts: 89 Location: N.S.W. Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Top effort looks good
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4361 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:15 am Post subject: |
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"Drip edge" is what that stuff is called. Neat project. |
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danfromsyr Samba Member

Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 14879 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Looks good and fairly easy mod. I have a spare faceplate already. though I'd imagine once you add useful space to a westy there's no going back.
now we just need a tip out sponge/soap tray in front of the sink  _________________
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Ahwahnee Samba Member

Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9620 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Another hidden space: Westy cutlery drawer |
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juanb wrote: |
Here it is closed:
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Do recall correctly that replacement lettering is available from someone, somewhere? |
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dubbified Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2010 Posts: 1373 Location: Redmond, WA
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juanb Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2009 Posts: 535 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:24 am Post subject: |
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danfromsyr wrote: |
Looks good and fairly easy mod. I have a spare faceplate already. though I'd imagine once you add useful space to a westy there's no going back.
now we just need a tip out sponge/soap tray in front of the sink  |
There's space to the right of the sink:
(photo by davideric9)
Initially I thought about making two drawers, but the space next to the sink is narrower. A triangular tray that hinges on the far right of the plate could be an option for here. Probably beyond my current abilities though.
Another cool thing would be to relocate the battery/water lights five or six inches to the right and use that space for another drawer. I don't remember how deep the circuit with the LEDs is, but I imagine it fits between the front plate and the sink. _________________ 1989 Westy AT, 2.2 GoWesty.
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 15910 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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It never ceases to amaze me how brilliant some of our members are. "brilliant". _________________ ☮️ |
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SyncroGhia Samba Member

Joined: August 21, 2009 Posts: 2455 Location: Highnam, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Great idea,
It would be possible to move the control panel to in front of the sink and use all three spaces...
I've been tempted to build a whole new cabinet which is slightly taller. Move the drawl to above the fridge and then make use of the taller space under the sink for a microwave. The sink drain would be an interesting one to work out though and having water above a microwave is never a good idea...
Ideas ideas!
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juanb Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2009 Posts: 535 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Rhinoculips wrote: |
Now, does the drawer stay closed on a hard left turn with just the friction tape? |
Having driven around a bit now, I can say the drawer stayed closed. Not sure what will happen when we're in Baja rattling around miles of washboard, but for now it seems ok. _________________ 1989 Westy AT, 2.2 GoWesty.
We drove it to Argentina: http://www.vanenvan.com |
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JED THE SPREAD Samba Member

Joined: July 14, 2009 Posts: 626 Location: South London UK
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Buss Marius Samba Member
Joined: February 29, 2012 Posts: 98 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:04 am Post subject: |
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@Juanb, Since you are looking for possibilities for increasing the luggage space, hav you considderd changing the RnR bed system to the Bay system? The top of engine compartment is 16cm or 6 inches higer above the flor in a bay than in a Vanagon. The Bay RnR bed lifts upp 16cm, while the Vanagon only moves forvard and canges it into a bed. In my Reimo conversion i have this system, so i have a ekstra space under the bed and rear cabinett of about 160x100x15cm, not very high but its room for camping table and som chairs, + som tools, a slepingbagg, most important, its room for equippements thats otherwise is hard to find a place for.
Someone broke into my camper and stole the battery, stereo and repair manual, they diddn't manage to open the back door so the tools wher not stolen and you have to know its there, under the bed. The only thing i dont like: it should be 10cm(4inches) higer, but so fahr i havent looked int making itt go even higher
http://www.reimo.com/de/58001-sitzbankbeschlag_mit_anhebung_vw_bis_8_89/ _________________ 87 75hp VW LT 28 Karmann LT L, 90 T3 Syncro 75hp AAZ Reimo Camper. 00 T4 102hp TDI Caravelle bus. |
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juanb Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2009 Posts: 535 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Marius,
That sounds really interesting, raising the bed a bit in order to gain some storage space there. I rarely sleep in the bottom though, so thise wouldn't be adding usable space for me--I use all the back for storage anyway. But it does sound very cool! _________________ 1989 Westy AT, 2.2 GoWesty.
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