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weatherbill Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2007 Posts: 366 Location: Nashville
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: hard start in hot weather |
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have to do more cranking to get me 89 wolfy started when its hot -
could this have anything to do with the ignition switch??? |
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3096 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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My guess is that it could have to do with a number of different things. I notice I need to step on the gas pedal a bit to get mine to start when it's hot out - I doubt my problem is an ignition switch. If you have any more details maybe someone can be of more help. Does it crank over fast or sluggish when it's hot? Bad starter? Fuel injection issue? _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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Captain Pike Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2003 Posts: 3327 Location: Talos IV, Piedmont Arizona
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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prolly a wonky temp 2 _________________ If You Build It______It Will Run
1959 Panel bus, 1966 Single cab. 73' 181. 73 Westy. 91' H6 Vanagon 3.3L.
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weatherbill Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2007 Posts: 366 Location: Nashville
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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not much help in this forum - anyone else want to give some input to this question??? |
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Steelhead Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2007 Posts: 1791 Location: Kentfield, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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weatherbill wrote: |
not much help in this forum - anyone else want to give some input to this question??? |
Dying to, since you asked so nicely.
Did you check the Temp 2 Sensor, per Cap'n Pike's suggestion, or did you just want to hear that from more people first?
Ignition switch wouldn't seem like the culprit, as it is cranking fine. Or is it? Is it cranking slowly? Or cranking normally just not catching. If cranking normally, then it maybe a fuel delivery issue? Does it require more gas pedal to get it to fire up? _________________ '77 Bay Window / '89 Caratsburg (aka. the Stormtrooper) |
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weatherbill Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2007 Posts: 366 Location: Nashville
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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yes, it requires some pumping the gas pedal to get it going.
It takes several attempts and then it starts.
temp sensor, where's that located? |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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<< it requires some pumping the gas pedal to get it going.>>
You must have have one of the rare carb conversion 89's, where the accelerator pump helps getting that engine started when it's hot & the gas is boiling in that float bowl.
The flexing of your foot on that gas pedal is purely a coincedence at best.
When's the last time a simple tune up was performed on that engine?
Ignition parts all new?
What's the timing set at?? _________________ T.K. |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7717 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:54 am Post subject: |
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FYI - TK's sarcasm indicator is on full alert. Translated:
Using the gas pedal would be helpful if your van had a carburetor (last offered in the 1970's)
but your 89 is fuel injected & the gas pedal will have no affect on starting.
If it's been a while, you should do a full tuneup on the basics (plugs, wires, dist cap & rotor...even an oil change) before doing anything else.
Do that & get back to us... _________________ 86 White Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Naw--that was kinda a lightweight response.
Trying to figure out what he's got in his description it like finding that needle in the haystack.
What's "Hot"
Needle buried or at normal operating temps?
There obviously isn't any gas boiling in the float bowl, so a basic engine PM would be prudent here.
Besides changing that oil, I'd consider a fuel filter change, check out all of the vacuum cnnections , and initial timing check, besides the tune up.
Then start asking questions of why it's hard starting whens it's hot.
Ya gotta start somewhere-and point A is always the best. _________________ T.K. |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9770 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Prior to starting to throw parts at the engine, it would be prudent to perform basic required periodic maintainence first.
Start at square 1, and then look for other possibilities of parts failure.
The OP asked why--without any info of what condition his condition is in.
Why would anyone buy a temp switch from Ricky Recardo, at Go Westy?
The Van-Cafe is a better deal, and much nicer folks to do business with.
I'd bet if he asked Peter what he thought, he would suggest the same starting point--or ask him what he has done to the engine first before going anywhere with buying parts to correct who know's what. _________________ T.K. |
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