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sky44
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 Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:57 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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MIG is pretty easy, most of the welding units have a general guide on the wire cove for suggested heat & feed speed. Get some scrap bits of the metal that you intend on welding & start sticking them together. Thinner metal will require that you weld in spots to limit burn through & warping as much.
& YouTube has instructions on how to do just about anything.
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TheDon
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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Distance is the problem.
My only other option is a makerspace in longwood I am a member of. I haven't seen a welding class pop up yet but those that do the class aren't welders by trade so it wouldnt be as good.
I'll probably just go figure out how to use the mig this weekend
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Sharp64
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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Valencia may offer welding but doubt it's a $100 course. Seminole State looks to only have degree seeking courses.
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1967 Ghia
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Sharp64
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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I know an " old guy " in St. Petersburg that gives " free " basic welding classes to Samba members...
" free " except for cost of Pizza 
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Free lessons AND you provide pizza? Might have to consider that!!
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine |
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TheDon
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:44 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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| Sharp64 wrote: |
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| so I took an autobody class at the local technical center, I will be taking a TIG welding class next. . |
Been contemplating this myself. Out of curiosity, how has your experience been going and taking these types of courses? I would probably enjoy learning how to do things properly, but at almost 50, I figure I'll be the oldest guy in the class.... |
I'm 48 and was one of the younger people in the class. It was ok, but really did not focus on what I had hoped. I was thinking old school metal shaping and repair with patch panels. They were more "use filler for small dents", "if too big for filler replace it" mentality. But I did get to spend some quality time sanding and prepping metal for paint and then painting in a booth and that was invaluable. I really was not sure when to stop sanding even with a guide coat and with a seasoned instructor looking over my shoulder what I thought was enough normally was. So it was worth it in that aspect. I have a feeling the welding class will be more of the same (Not too much thin sheet metal) but I like asking questions and then have an expert critique how I do things and tell me what they see wrong. |
If you don't mind me asking, what school did you go to? I am looking at some around me and most have horrendous reviews. I welded a little bit in high school shop class with oxyacetaline, but would love to learn how to TIG weld and as you say, get some real knowledge or instruction on painting/bodywork. |
I live in Manatee County and the courses are held at the local Manatee County Technical College. One class a week for 3 1/2 hours starting at 4pm. the course was 7 weeks long and the price was only $100. |
I wish the local schools did that here in Orange County.
I think we both got rust buckets, ha.
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grandpa pete
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:39 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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I know an " old guy " in St. Petersburg that gives " free " basic welding classes to Samba members...
" free " except for cost of Pizza
You might have seen some of my work in a Sedan Delivery thread
or " Replacing a roof car rolled over " thread...
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fla2smoker
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Joined: December 31, 2011
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Location: Parrish, Florida
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:09 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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| Sharp64 wrote: |
| fla2smoker wrote: |
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| fla2smoker wrote: |
| so I took an autobody class at the local technical center, I will be taking a TIG welding class next. . |
Been contemplating this myself. Out of curiosity, how has your experience been going and taking these types of courses? I would probably enjoy learning how to do things properly, but at almost 50, I figure I'll be the oldest guy in the class.... |
I'm 48 and was one of the younger people in the class. It was ok, but really did not focus on what I had hoped. I was thinking old school metal shaping and repair with patch panels. They were more "use filler for small dents", "if too big for filler replace it" mentality. But I did get to spend some quality time sanding and prepping metal for paint and then painting in a booth and that was invaluable. I really was not sure when to stop sanding even with a guide coat and with a seasoned instructor looking over my shoulder what I thought was enough normally was. So it was worth it in that aspect. I have a feeling the welding class will be more of the same (Not too much thin sheet metal) but I like asking questions and then have an expert critique how I do things and tell me what they see wrong. |
If you don't mind me asking, what school did you go to? I am looking at some around me and most have horrendous reviews. I welded a little bit in high school shop class with oxyacetaline, but would love to learn how to TIG weld and as you say, get some real knowledge or instruction on painting/bodywork. |
I live in Manatee County and the courses are held at the local Manatee County Technical College. One class a week for 3 1/2 hours starting at 4pm. the course was 7 weeks long and the price was only $100.
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Sharp64
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Location: Central Florida
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:57 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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| fla2smoker wrote: |
| so I took an autobody class at the local technical center, I will be taking a TIG welding class next. . |
Been contemplating this myself. Out of curiosity, how has your experience been going and taking these types of courses? I would probably enjoy learning how to do things properly, but at almost 50, I figure I'll be the oldest guy in the class.... |
I'm 48 and was one of the younger people in the class. It was ok, but really did not focus on what I had hoped. I was thinking old school metal shaping and repair with patch panels. They were more "use filler for small dents", "if too big for filler replace it" mentality. But I did get to spend some quality time sanding and prepping metal for paint and then painting in a booth and that was invaluable. I really was not sure when to stop sanding even with a guide coat and with a seasoned instructor looking over my shoulder what I thought was enough normally was. So it was worth it in that aspect. I have a feeling the welding class will be more of the same (Not too much thin sheet metal) but I like asking questions and then have an expert critique how I do things and tell me what they see wrong. |
If you don't mind me asking, what school did you go to? I am looking at some around me and most have horrendous reviews. I welded a little bit in high school shop class with oxyacetaline, but would love to learn how to TIG weld and as you say, get some real knowledge or instruction on painting/bodywork. I work flexible hours so have considered seeing if a local shop would let me hang out and observe or put in a couple of hours a week for free.
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine |
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fla2smoker
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:39 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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| so I took an autobody class at the local technical center, I will be taking a TIG welding class next. . |
Been contemplating this myself. Out of curiosity, how has your experience been going and taking these types of courses? I would probably enjoy learning how to do things properly, but at almost 50, I figure I'll be the oldest guy in the class.... |
I'm 48 and was one of the younger people in the class. It was ok, but really did not focus on what I had hoped. I was thinking old school metal shaping and repair with patch panels. They were more "use filler for small dents", "if too big for filler replace it" mentality. But I did get to spend some quality time sanding and prepping metal for paint and then painting in a booth and that was invaluable. I really was not sure when to stop sanding even with a guide coat and with a seasoned instructor looking over my shoulder what I thought was enough normally was. So it was worth it in that aspect. I have a feeling the welding class will be more of the same (Not too much thin sheet metal) but I like asking questions and then have an expert critique how I do things and tell me what they see wrong.
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Sharp64
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:28 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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| fla2smoker wrote: |
| so I took an autobody class at the local technical center, I will be taking a TIG welding class next. . |
Been contemplating this myself. Out of curiosity, how has your experience been going and taking these types of courses? I would probably enjoy learning how to do things properly, but at almost 50, I figure I'll be the oldest guy in the class....
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fla2smoker
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:20 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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| Saved your build thread! Even if I'm here for the long haul, I'll be sitting on the edge of my seat! Haven't heard from you for awhile and a summer has passed.... Any pictures to share?? |
No new pictures. This past summer and fall was way too hot to spend quality time in the garage, so I took an autobody class at the local technical center, I will be taking a TIG welding class next. Every time I look at this project it gets overwhelming, but just like eating an elephant, one bite at a time.
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Oatsey
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:26 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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Saved your build thread! Even if I'm here for the long haul, I'll be sitting on the edge of my seat! Haven't heard from you for awhile and a summer has passed.... Any pictures to share??
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fla2smoker
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:46 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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hahaha, your equipment is worth more dough than your car at the moment  |
Isn't that the way it always works? 
I am pretty happy now that the only aftermarket metal going on this car is the heater channels and front firewall sections from KlassicFab, the floorpans from WolfsburgWest and the A-pillar's from Auto Craft Engineering.
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tisius
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:12 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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Got some new toys today What did I say about the budget? Tools don't count right? Hypertherm Powermax 30xp plasma cutter and an Everlast i-TIG-200t. Have a CK flex-loc torch model 131 (size 9 equivalent) with super flex hose and gas lens kit on order. Did some quick cuts with the plasma cutter on 16-20 gauge sheet and it cut like butter with a super thin kerf. Really happy! I am going to do some test gouging this weekend on an old frame head and see if I can remove the lower plate without too much damage.
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hahaha, your equipment is worth more dough than your car at the moment
Go change that around, I would say 
Seems like you've gathered lots of parts to put on it once you'll be done welding; it will be a pretty Volkswagen in the end, I'm positive on that 
Good luck with the project.
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ratherb-buggin
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:10 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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| Terry, I was happy to help out! Now that you have some good metal, and the right tools it will be fun to see the progress as it happens! Keep up the good work, she'll be on the road before you know it! |
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fla2smoker
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:11 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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It's great to see that you are back at it .
Have fun playing with your new toys ; I mean tools .  |
Thanks GP,
The boys have taken the season off so no soccer at least until fall, so I actually have time again to spend in the garage. I have always wanted to learn how to TIG sheet metal as I love the look of the finished product, so I bought one. I also got some shrinking discs from Wray Schelin and a Nicholson #25 curved vixen file. So no matter how bad I screw up, I should be able to work it back to normal.... I will start media blasting the metal this weekend and post pics as I go. So happy to finally have the time, proper tools and metal to get this car where I want it to be.
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grandpa pete
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fla2smoker
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:24 am Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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With the help of Samba members dutchboyvw and Ratherb-buggin, I was able to finally get the last area of real VW metal that I have needed to get this rust bucket put back together (Fresh from California!). Let the cutting finally begin!
Proper 66 rear clip with no rust holes or damage from being hit.
Oh and if anybody doesn't believe that there was death foam in 66 here is the proof:
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fla2smoker
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 "Proud" new owner of a rust bucket |
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| Damn, I found a 65' for $600 rust free, it's crazy how different the prices are in different states. |
You are lucky. I haven't seen a rust free good running original engine 60's VW in Florida for less than a grand since the mid 80's.
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