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Glad to see you've found your smaller problems. Sometimes you just have to take a step back and go over things. 
When we went to set my son's carbs, we found the left throttle shaft bore was egged out, which made fine tuning a little difficult, but we pushed thru it. I've got another set of Webers sitting here that we'll probably use on it next year, as he's got a bunch of other little projects to finish up on while the weather is still decent.
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How are the new generator brushes going ??????
has the sparking settled down now they have had some time to "bed in".
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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Glad to see you've found your smaller problems. Sometimes you just have to take a step back and go over things.
When we went to set my son's carbs, we found the left throttle shaft bore was egged out, which made fine tuning a little difficult, but we pushed thru it. I've got another set of Webers sitting here that we'll probably use on it next year, as he's got a bunch of other little projects to finish up on while the weather is still decent. |
Thanks Bob, always learning something with this car. I've thought about replacing the carbs for Webers but after looking at the air cleaner in place, I change my mind as I really like the look of it in there. I've even thought of taking one and modifying it to fit with a set of Webers but it would probably hinder fitting and performance so I dropped that idea. I still have little tweaks to do but overall I'm very please with its performance. I may go back fiddle with the air adjustment screw some but for now, I'm content. Too much OCD (Out of Control Dude)!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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How are the new generator brushes going ??????
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Yes they have. I didn't think about them needing a 'bed in' period but thanks for the info on them as I was a bit concerned.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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Glad to see you've found your smaller problems. Sometimes you just have to take a step back and go over things.
When we went to set my son's carbs, we found the left throttle shaft bore was egged out, which made fine tuning a little difficult, but we pushed thru it. I've got another set of Webers sitting here that we'll probably use on it next year, as he's got a bunch of other little projects to finish up on while the weather is still decent. |
Thanks Bob, always learning something with this car. I've thought about replacing the carbs for Webers but after looking at the air cleaner in place, I change my mind as I really like the look of it in there. I've even thought of taking one and modifying it to fit with a set of Webers but it would probably hinder fitting and performance so I dropped that idea. I still have little tweaks to do but overall I'm very please with its performance. I may go back fiddle with the air adjustment screw some but for now, I'm content. Too much OCD (Out of Control Dude)! |
Once you get them dialed in, you shouldn't have to touch them again. Well at least until you re-jet them and change the venturies when you install them on the new bigger engine. 
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After a few days of chasings ground issue to my radio I decided to disconnect it and work a different solution to the wiring. A friend got a hold of me and asked if I was going to go to Devils Tower for a show. I wasn't planning on it but I've wanted to go and get a few pics, so I packed things up and got ready for the next days road trip. Well into the trip I began to hear some clattering in the engine bay and my tach needle is all over the place. Luckily we just got into a small town , my buddy had planned stopping there anyway and washing his car. So I pull over, pop the lid and look around to see my choke dangling from the wire. Now where am I going to find M5 screws in a small town in WY? Look up the road an see a NAPA so off I go. Found some hex head screws...good enough for now. Problem, head won't screw in as the corners it hit the choke so I disconnect the wiring ensuring the carb flap is fully open on the carb and finger tighten the hex-head best I can. We're off again and make it to the KOA campground where the show was being held. Every show I've been going to is loaded with Muscle but the lone VW import held it's own and had folks looking it over and just talking about it, even while having lunch in the cafe. Had a great time overall. The chokes didn't bother me the rest of the way home. Pulled some screws from my stash and have them back on. Not running them at the moment. Few pics of the Tower...
On 2 Sep, the KOA where the show was held is showing Close Encounter of the Third Kind on a large outdoor screen for the 50th anniversary of the movie. They are coming... The solar eclipse is just the mother-ship getting in getting into position. HAHAHAHAAHAA
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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After a few days of chasings ground issue to my radio I decided to disconnect it and work a different solution to the wiring. A friend got a hold of me and asked if I was going to go to Devils Tower for a show. I wasn't planning on it but I've wanted to go and get a few pics, so I packed things up and got ready for the next days road trip. Well into the trip I began to hear some clattering in the engine bay and my tach needle is all over the place. Luckily we just got into a small town , my buddy had planned stopping there anyway and washing his car. So I pull over, pop the lid and look around to see my choke dangling from the wire. Now where am I going to find M5 screws in a small town in WY? Look up the road an see a NAPA so off I go. Found some hex head screws...good enough for now. Problem, head won't screw in as the corners it hit the choke so I disconnect the wiring ensuring the carb flap is fully open on the carb and finger tighten the hex-head best I can. We're off again and make it to the KOA campground where the show was being held. Every show I've been going to is loaded with Muscle but the lone VW import held it's own and had folks looking it over and just talking about it, even while having lunch in the cafe. Had a great time overall. The chokes didn't bother me the rest of the way home. Pulled some screws from my stash and have them back on. Not running them at the moment. Few pics of the Tower...
On 2 Sep, the KOA where the show was held is showing Close Encounter of the Third Kind on a large outdoor screen for the 50th anniversary of the movie. They are coming... The solar eclipse is just the mother-ship getting in getting into position. HAHAHAHAAHAA |
The car and trailer combo looks great. Some of your shots could even be post card material. It's a shame Gizmo isn't doing calendars any more, as he'd have a hard time picking out the best one to use. 
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64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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MonT3
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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After a few days of chasings ground issue to my radio I decided to disconnect it and work a different solution to the wiring. A friend got a hold of me and asked if I was going to go to Devils Tower for a show. I wasn't planning on it but I've wanted to go and get a few pics, so I packed things up and got ready for the next days road trip. Well into the trip I began to hear some clattering in the engine bay and my tach needle is all over the place. Luckily we just got into a small town , my buddy had planned stopping there anyway and washing his car. So I pull over, pop the lid and look around to see my choke dangling from the wire. Now where am I going to find M5 screws in a small town in WY? Look up the road an see a NAPA so off I go. Found some hex head screws...good enough for now. Problem, head won't screw in as the corners it hit the choke so I disconnect the wiring ensuring the carb flap is fully open on the carb and finger tighten the hex-head best I can. We're off again and make it to the KOA campground where the show was being held. Every show I've been going to is loaded with Muscle but the lone VW import held it's own and had folks looking it over and just talking about it, even while having lunch in the cafe. Had a great time overall. The chokes didn't bother me the rest of the way home. Pulled some screws from my stash and have them back on. Not running them at the moment. Few pics of the Tower...
On 2 Sep, the KOA where the show was held is showing Close Encounter of the Third Kind on a large outdoor screen for the 50th anniversary of the movie. They are coming... The solar eclipse is just the mother-ship getting in getting into position. HAHAHAHAAHAA |
The car and trailer combo looks great. Some of your shots could even be post card material. It's a shame Gizmo isn't doing calendars any more, as he'd have a hard time picking out the best one to use. |
Thanks for the compliment Bobnotch, Been thinking of doing something like with my car for own personal use. Shutterfly is your friend! Also, I made a mistake on the anniversary, it'll be the 40th!
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Car is looking great! Amazing work!
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Found this yesterday while placing the new case and heads on the ground for my motor build. Think it happened the day before when I took it out for a test run after making an adjustment to the accelerator cable. Took the car onto the interstate, got passed my a semi and I heard 'Wack!' I immediately looked at my windshield for damage but didn't see any. Thought maybe the nose took a hit from a rock but nothing when I looked up front. Didn't think about looking at the headlight. Have a set on order...
Yesterday I decided to tackle the outer pop-out window seals as they've sagged and never had a snug fit to them. I was intending on shortening them but decided to keep them whole and get them glued in...
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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Found this yesterday while placing the new case and heads on the ground for my motor build. Think it happened the day before when I took it out for a test run after making an adjustment to the accelerator cable. Took the car onto the interstate, got passed my a semi and I heard 'Wack!' I immediately looked at my windshield for damage but didn't see any. Thought maybe the nose took a hit from a rock but nothing when I looked up front. Didn't think about looking at the headlight. Have a set on order...
Yesterday I decided to tackle the outer pop-out window seals as they've sagged and never had a snug fit to them. I was intending on shortening them but decided to keep them whole and get them glued in...
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Sucks about the headlight glass. shame you can't just order it separately.
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64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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Got up early yesterday and changed the oil. Packed the square for my camping trip at Devils Tower for the 40th Anniversary of Close Encounters. There's a haze from the fires in Montana but still managed to get few nice shots....
Got in early and set up. My base camp was out of the way but it didn't stop folks from coming by and asking about the car and taking pics.
My view wasn't too bad. Again, the haze...
Settled in for the evening movie after two Buffalo burgers and couple of beers...
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Took some time to remove the red lens I had on the rear driver side I was going to use as a third brake light and swapped it out for another clear lens. Rewired the connection and I'm good to go with it. Also, the fire extinguisher went to its permanent place.
I'm working on putting together a relay setup so I can work the three-way headlight setup. A new set of headlights are on the way so I can replace the cracked one and have a spare.
Lastly, I have a question on the dash vinyl. This sample is from a 68. was this texture used on all years? I have a retrovan repop and the grain looks different given the sample here has been weathered.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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It's smart to keep an extinguisher on hand - Hopefully, you'll never have to use it. Personally, I prefer to keep it in easy reach, yet further away from where a fire is likely to start. If the engine's burning, do you really want to be trying to open the hatch? I'd rather mount it on the inside of the A-pillar, or on the floor in front of the driver's seat.
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Lastly, I have a question on the dash vinyl. This sample is from a 68. was this texture used on all years? I have a retrovan repop and the grain looks different given the sample here has been weathered.
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The texture of the original dash is pretty much the same throughout the years. The Retrovan dash texture is quite different from the original. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Montehms 67 Prairie Square |
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It's smart to keep an extinguisher on hand - Hopefully, you'll never have to use it. Personally, I prefer to keep it in easy reach, yet further away from where a fire is likely to start. If the engine's burning, do you really want to be trying to open the hatch? I'd rather mount it on the inside of the A-pillar, or on the floor in front of the driver's seat.
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The texture of the original dash is pretty much the same throughout the years. The Retrovan dash texture is quite different from the original. |
You're right, I need to rethink this extinguisher location. When the car flamed, I have a small one in the front. After grabbing it, and opening the back I have to remove items I had in the back in order to open the decklid. My thought was to have it handy. Out it'll come for a new location. Thanks for the observation and info on the dash vinyl.
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I feel like I just lived through the entire build, reading the entire thread. Sure destroyed a work day! Gorgeous car and an incredible build.
I'm the kind of guy that is hated on here, because I don't/can't do my own work. But my '72 Square is about to hit the road in the next few days after 3 years of getting rebuilt. Definitely not a ground up like yours, but a good road warrior and small car show vehicle.
Question from way back on the thread: Where did you source the wide whitewalls? Are they good highway rubber?
Thanks, and will definitely be watching to see where your Square goes next.
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I feel like I just lived through the entire build, reading the entire thread. Sure destroyed a work day! Gorgeous car and an incredible build.
I'm the kind of guy that is hated on here, because I don't/can't do my own work. But my '72 Square is about to hit the road in the next few days after 3 years of getting rebuilt. Definitely not a ground up like yours, but a good road warrior and small car show vehicle.
Question from way back on the thread: Where did you source the wide whitewalls? Are they good highway rubber?
Thanks, and will definitely be watching to see where your Square goes next. |
Thanks for the compliment on the car. Being an owner of an older car, you should have some knowledge of what you have so in the event you should start experiencing some issues road warrioring, you can try to sort thru things before having to shell out some $$ on getting it fixed. I've experienced some issues I didn't have a clue on but with some knowledge learned by reading these threads you can start to figure things out. Just a thought. Note sure what to say on the hate piece because you don't/can't work on the car yourself as I don't know your limitations but you can try. With the mounds of information here you can learn how to do your maint.
To answer your question on the tires, take a look at this site https://www.dbtires.com/store/shoptire.cfm?size=15.00
As for how they perform on the road, I cruise my car about 65 on the interstate. There are times I bump that up but with 135s up front, I don't push this car as they are not that wide compared to other tires out there. If cruising thru town, not big deal and you can clean them easy at the car wash with the company recommended cleaner - Greased Lighting and it works. I haven't had any issue with them yet.
Best of luck with your car and enjoy it as much as you can.
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Been closing the loop on my small projects and am almost there so I can focus on my new engine built. I pulled the parcel tray and made a mod to it so I could affix my new relay fuse box setup...
I then built a small bracket and affixed that to the tunnel for the circuit breaker to be near the battery.
Just need to run the wire between the two. Lastly I'm planning on building a bracket to place it where the radio normally goes. Sort of a blank piece for some push buttons. Still working on the rear cargo cover area. The design I have for the piece closest to the hatch needs to be redone as I'm not happy with it. Back to the drawing board...
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