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62ItalianRagtop
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molasses ?  What is this ?
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62ItalianRagtop
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I didn't know the power of molasses 
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LHG
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Thanks for the tip Matthew. I will head to the store and get the first batch soaking and report back. I don't think I can wait two weeks though for this first set as I'll need some of it this week.
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mariusstrom
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Thanks for the tip Matthew. I will head to the store and get the first batch soaking and report back. I don't think I can wait two weeks though for this first set as I'll need some of it this week.
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I soaked an oil-burning lamp overnight in molasses and then hit it with some 0000 steel wool, made an amazing difference. I think you'll see quick returns, but the longer the soak, the better.
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Curious on seeing the before & after pics of the difference using the molasses trick. Someone had to have been pretty bored to think: "Let's see...Hawaiian punch....vanilla extract....canola oil....cream of chicken soup....awe, what thee heck...lemme try molasses next.." 
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Mr. Motorhead
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The molasses solution reacts on the iron oxide on a rusted part. There are a couple other products that work the same, but this is far cheaper. If you want to do bigger parts, a bigger tank is all you need. Cheap molasses can be had at your local farm supply in non-food grade for livestock. I don't think you'd want to use the used molasses on your pancakes though. An interesting read is the Boston molasses disaster of 1919 at this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster
Molasses will dissolve steel over time so use nylon cord to suspend parts in a tank rather than wire.........the wire disappears over several uses. That could have also been a factor in the 1919 disaster and not just shitty construction. Remember, everything was still pretty much all riveted then and not welded.
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LHG
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Got the pan back from the powdercoater today and into position for the build.
I'm going to be cleaning/restoring parts as I go.
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That pan turned out great!
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LHG
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You can't see the torsion bars, but I'd know if they looked shabby. I found an almost NOS set to use so I can sleep at night 
Getting ready to start assembling.
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sportin-wood
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Nice progress! Love the step-by-step pics. This will come in handy when I get to these areas. Keep the pics coming!
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The molasses solution reacts on the iron oxide on a rusted part. There are a couple other products that work the same, but this is far cheaper. If you want to do bigger parts, a bigger tank is all you need. Cheap molasses can be had at your local farm supply in non-food grade for livestock. I don't think you'd want to use the used molasses on your pancakes though. An interesting read is the Boston molasses disaster of 1919 at this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster
Molasses will dissolve steel over time so use nylon cord to suspend parts in a tank rather than wire.........the wire disappears over several uses. That could have also been a factor in the 1919 disaster and not just shitty construction. Remember, everything was still pretty much all riveted then and not welded. |
How do you get molasses to pour? Around here its so thick you have to spoon it out of the can! Is there a ratio of molasses to water needed to make a proper soaking solution? |
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sportin-wood
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I believe someone posted earlier: 1 part molasses to 10 parts water using a plastic jug....
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LHG
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Here is the pile of hardware after soaking in the molasses mixture for 8 days.
It's a little better.
Here is the original hardware on the spring plate covers.
How I get the spring plates in place, 2x4 to the ceiling joists and a jack.
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62ItalianRagtop
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I have a question. How many wires goes to the turn signal switch on a 1200a?
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Nice work Brian. No notched springplates?
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| Curious on seeing the before & after pics of the difference using the molasses trick. Someone had to have been pretty bored to think: "Let's see...Hawaiian punch....vanilla extract....canola oil....cream of chicken soup....awe, what thee heck...lemme try molasses next.." |
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Big Bill
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| Very cool project, 66 is my favorite big window model. Being a cloth ragtop makes it that much cooler. (along with being Sea Blue)I have never seen a cloth ragtop later than a 64, too cool. |
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